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Details From Hargrove's Document...

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...explored by Yahoo sports

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--document--anthony-hargrove-was-instructed-to-lie-by-gregg-williams--joe-vitt.html

Hargrove confirms that not only did Gregg Williams tell him to lie, but that post-suspension interim coach Joe Vitt was in on it as well. Vitt was supposedly the coach that Sean Payton sent to monitor Williams, whom they later claimed "went rogue".

The document also states that Vitt and Williams made promises of a starting DE job to Hargrove, likely in order to assist with his cooperation in denying the bounty program. They apparently never made good on their promise.

The reason behind the declaration was to set the foundation for a "just following orders" defense. Hargrove apparently didn't realize that by doing this, he was giving the NFL additional ammo against him, the Saints* and his teammates.

The statement he quotes from Williams is hilarious :lol:

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Not putting any faith or whatsoever in Mike Florio's opinion, but he has a different take on what that means.

As he mentions, given the coaches' admissions, you can do the math.

That said, Florio's probably pissed Yahoo got it before he did.

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Florio disagrees because at the end of the day, he is still a lawyer. It is in a lawyers blood to argue and sensationalize. These NFLPA lawyers would rather get Vilma, Hargrove, Chicken Fajita and the rest of them off on a technicality than do what they are supposed to do, which is protect the health of their union members.

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Bounty Gate is just bafflingly stupid. It probably didn't help them on the field. If they had just ended it when the NFL first told them to, they would have gotten a slap on the wrist, fired Greg Williams, and moved on. Instead they engage in this elaborate cover up, and did they really think this poo would work?

Now they pissed off the Ginger Hammer, and have tarnished their reputation.

Say what you want about Belicheat, at least he did it the smart way. Gain actual on field advantage, apologize when caught, take your punishment, and move on.

This denial movement is only going to further hurt the national perception of the Saints*.

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Bounty Gate is just bafflingly stupid. It probably didn't help them on the field. If they had just ended it when the NFL first told them to, they would have gotten a slap on the wrist, fired Greg Williams, and moved on. Instead they engage in this elaborate cover up, and did they really think this poo would work?

Now they pissed off the Ginger Hammer, and have tarnished their reputation.

Say what you want about Belicheat, at least he did it the smart way. Gain actual on field advantage, apologize when caught, take your punishment, and move on.

This denial movement is only going to further hurt the national perception of the Saints**.

(putting on my lawyer hat)

"Bountygate" is not stupid.

The Saints* players, coaches, front office and (especially) their fans are very stupid.

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