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The Amazing Spider Man (minor spoilers included)


Mr. Scot

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Some stuff I'm seeing online about the movie...

- no Spider Sense, just "heightened awareness"

- no Jonah Jameson :blink:

- no mention of "with great power comes great responsibility"

- no "will he get the girl" issues, he already has her, and apparently Gwen learns his secret

- he doesn't catch the guy who shot Uncle Ben

- lotsa focus on the lame "Peters Parents" storyline

- Doctor Connors is not quite so likeable

Mixed reviews so far from people that have seen it. I still have a strong feeling it's going to suck something fierce.

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After a decade of Spiderman movies and Broadway shows I'm just done. I'm worn out and don't care. I wish they had waited a few years to do this movie because honestly I really just want this movie to end with someone putting a gun to Peters head and killing him in his sleep.

Please forgive the minor ranting.

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Watched it last night, and honestly it was good. The less rigid adherence to canon made the story so much better and less predictable, the people complaining would be saying "it was just like the last one" if it were more by the book.

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Watched it last night, and honestly it was good. The less rigid adherence to canon made the story so much better and less predictable, the people complaining would be saying "it was just like the last one" if it were more by the book.

You realize that factor is exactly what will make longtime Spidey fans hate it, right?

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You realize that factor is exactly what will make longtime Spidey fans hate it, right?

I've been reading Spider Man since I was a wee lad, I honestly like the change of pace. I don't need to be fed the same lines I've already read/heard countless times already. You honestly would have to watch the movie to understand why the complaints some fans are leveling are completely baseless, and in some cases just bitching for the sake of bitching. There will always be the vocal subset of fans who loved Spider Man growing up but because the modern interpretations aren't exactly how they wanted it (even though they don't know what they want), they say the movie was lacking.

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I've been reading Spider Man since I was a wee lad, I honestly like the change of pace. I don't need to be fed the same lines I've already read/heard countless times already. You honestly would have to watch the movie to understand why the complaints some fans are leveling are completely baseless, and in some cases just bitching for the sake of bitching. There will always be the vocal subset of fans who loved Spider Man growing up but because the modern interpretations aren't exactly how they wanted it (even though they don't know what they want), they say the movie was lacking.

See, I'm a longtime Spidey reader too, and I liked the organic web shooters that Raimi brought in.

What I hated, however, was marginalizing Flash Thompson, altogether removing Gwen Stacy (until movie 3, which made no sense) and pretty much everything in the third one.

I do plan to see this movie, but it'll probably take a near miracle to make me like it.

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i thought it was better than the sam rami spider-man trilogy, at least as good as the 2nd film. there were things i didn't like about it, but overall its much much meatier a film

i'd say that its not just a good comic book film, but a good film in its own right

emma stone does a fantastic job as gwen stacy.

not liking it for the sake of not liking it is doing yourself no favors

it was far better than i expected. i like this darker take on spider-man. also you have to realize they're drawing from the ultimate canon, and not the traditional canon.

i honestly don't see what all the complaints are about. spider-man was my absolute favorite childhood comic series, and i have no real issues with this reboot

in fact, they fixed the issue with his web shooters, which to me is a very integral part of the character.

he still has his spider-sense, but they don't really go into detail explaining his powers in this movie. not that important. for a long time parker didn't understand his powers anyway.

go see it and quit being indignant

i saw it on imax in 3d and don't regret it one bit. last time i went to a theater to watch a movie was the dark knight i think. fuging hate going to movies

kirsten dunst can go die of ass cancer in a daycare fire as far as i'm concerned after seeing this

not that i was a fan to begin with

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yeah but at least #2 didn't have the green goblin in a shitty power rangers mask

after watching the movie i came away with the impression that they had to reboot because sam rami killed norman osborne

this is why comic book villains should never die at the end of a film

unless they take too much ambien after drinking all night and snorting coke

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I liked it. They made Spider-Man funny again. Spider-Man, just as the character, is like he is in the comics and that's a good thing.

I think the sequel will have more familiar themes, like everything that comes with the Daily Bugle, more with Gwyn.

Him finding Uncle Ben's killer is done differently. The "with great power" line, while it wasn't explicitly in there, it was implicitly in there. Ben tells Peter about his dad saying, "if you can do good for somebody, you have a moral obligation to do it". Same concept. I think they honestly wanted to avoid TOO MUCH familiarity with the last batch of films. They needed something that could stand on it's own. I think they did a hell of a job with it.

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