The actual reason Armanti is on the team...

[FirstRoundPick]

More lies

http://www.panthers.com/team/depth-chart.html

[KendrickPanther]

Hurney said he views this as Armanti's second season. He was basically red shirted by Fox.

[iamhubby1]

You are just making up stuff. He had one fumble...he lost it against Pitt. No other fumbles.

Tolbert had the only turnover against Miami....and it was a fumble on a reception.

So that muff against Pitt, where he chased the ball down the sideline. Which Pitt recovered. Did not happen? Or does not count as a butter finger? Oh, ok, now it makes sense. Until he has possession it is not his fault?

He also muffed one of his first returns against the Texans. (I know I thought it was Miami.) Which Stafford recovered.

Either way. He had back to back flubs against the Steelers and gets a basic pass. Cuz as a stat it was only one?

Or because Stafford recovers his muff in his first game. It did not happen?

After 20+ years with the inlaws, you guys are a snap.

[FirstRoundPick]

Hurney said he views this as Armanti's second season. He was basically red shirted by Fox.

Haha told you this would happen. I just thought people would wait till next year to say it.

[CRA]

So that muff against Pitt, where he chased the ball down the sideline. Which Pitt recovered. Did not happen? Or does not count as a butter finger? Oh, ok, now it makes sense. Until he has possession it is not his fault?

He also muffed one of his first returns against the Texans. (I know I thought it was Miami.) Which Stafford recovered.

Either way. He had back to back flubs against the Steelers and gets a basic pass. Cuz as a stat it was only one?

Or because Stafford recovers his muff in his first game. It did not happen?

After 20+ years with the inlaws, you guys are a snap.

Are you drunk? I have repeatedly acknowledged he has one fumble. It was against Pitt.

I am disagreeing with all your other fictional fumbles.

[FirstRoundPick]

NFL.com seems to track fumbles as fumbles regardless of which team recovers it. It has D-Will at two fumbles which seems to be accurate. He had one where Olson recovered.

[CRA]

Texans

1st punt - Downed by HOU at 26

2nd punt - 34 yard return - Adams

3rd punt - out of bounds

So again, where is the fumble? You keep making up stuff.

Joe Adams didn't lose a fumble against any team but Pitt on than one punt.

[iamhubby1]

Are you drunk? I have repeatedly acknowledged he has one fumble. It was against Pitt.

I am disagreeing with all your other fictional fumbles.

Nary a drop.

And that stat you so love. Is Fair Catches. Which is 1. Nothing to do with muffs or fumbles. Which are not listed on Panthers or NFL.

So muffs, when a player does not actually catch the ball, does not count against the PR? May not be a stat. But I don't trust a guy that can't catch consistently.

Ah hell, can't wait to see who catches the first punt against Tampon Bay. Come on AE. Just so the Huddle can fap. And Adams can learn a lesson. More the latter, cuz I really don't want AE on PR.

But I will defend to the time to go to bed. My right to call BS. So I expect it in return. Just thought I would be wrong when it finally happened.

Adams is shaky personified. And I hate it.

[CRA]

You are just posting words.

Name the quater and game Joe Adams lost a fumble outside of the Pitt game.

You said - Miami - which was false

You then said Texans - which is false.

Joe Adams lost one ball. One turnover. You falsely claimed he had several turnovers.

[FirstRoundPick]

You are just posting words.

Name the quater and game Joe Adams lost a fumble outside of the Pitt game.

You said - Miami - which was false

You then said Texans - which is false.

Joe Adams lost one ball. One turnover. You falsely claimed he had several turnovers.

4 at first then changed it to 5.

[FirstRoundPick]

I'm still willing to make that bet. He is the starting PR on Panthers.com for goodness sakes. I think it is weaselly how you backed out of the other conditions because the guy who get the most play is the starter, but doesn't matter because I still like my chances.

[NoDa Panther]

Texans

1st punt - Downed by HOU at 26

2nd punt - 34 yard return - Adams

3rd punt - out of bounds

So again, where is the fumble? You keep making up stuff.

Joe Adams didn't lose a fumble against any team but Pitt on than one punt.

He didn't lose it but he muffed a kickoff in the end one but picked it up. Adams' ceiling as a return specialist vs Edwards' is obvious, but he does have an issue with ball security. Repeatedly stating that he has only one turnover does not negate the high potential that his inability to cleanly field the ball may cost us dearly this season.

The question posted earlier holds water... How much of a premium should be placed on 5-10 yard improvement in average return yardage vs ball security given the potency of our offense?

[FirstRoundPick]

I'll admit Adams has had turnover issues, but it was an exaggeration to say he averaged one a game bad.

[Floppin]

You are just posting words.

Name the quater and game Joe Adams lost a fumble outside of the Pitt game.

You said - Miami - which was false

You then said Texans - which is false.

Joe Adams lost one ball. One turnover. You falsely claimed he had several turnovers.

I think you're interpreting what he's saying as "turnovers". At least that's the impression that I get from you saying "lost a fumble". Hubby is just referring to times that he let the ball hit the ground. Muffed punts that are immediately picked up and fumbles that are immediately recovered by the initial ball carrier are not tracked as "fumbles" in official statistics (in most cases). If you don't remember Adams letting the ball hit the turf on more than the one official fumble then you have a very bad memory.