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[TylerDurden]

With as bad as it looked yesterday, what do you chalk it up to? Just a bad game? Or do you think it's schematic? Lack of chemistry? Or personnel?

I would be in favor of kicking Bell to the inside to RG and give Campbell a shot at starting at RT. I've never been a huge Hangartner fan, and I think that shift could have a positive effect on the entire unit. Silatolu should be fine and is young, but he had a rough outing yesterday. But yesterday, I think the problems started with the interior line.

[Guest Bwood]

The Buc's have a very good defensive line.

Our guards played like crap.

[KillerKat]

Hangartner should be cut. He was terrible during preseason and terrible yesterday. I'd like your idea.

[TylerDurden]

Well, I think our OL gets off to a slow start every year, as evidenced by the run production week to week. But, I don't know that their DL is that good just yet. A lot of the problems we had were with the extra blitzers and not so much the DL, at least from what I saw.

[Jesse]

I think we should be able to see how they play once DWill and Stew really play

[Frizzy350]

No to campbell. He has a mental condition that impede's his ability to learn on the fly. The reason he was so unsuccessful in oakland is because they moved him around, leave him at once position.

Bell played fine, it was our 3 interior lineman that dropped the ball.

Hangman is probably the least physically gifted of these three, but the big issue was just lack of communication and whiffing assignments. Whenever they all got their guy on a clean block it worked out fine, way WAY too many guys got in untouched on a consistent basis though. This happened in the Jets preseason game. These 3 guys are not on the same page and need to figure it out before the Saints* game.

[Jesse]

Also, is anyone not impressed we didn't keep a close game with ten fuggin rushing yards? If not for that blocked punt, we would have won. Cam threw a fluke pick and threw up another in desperation mode.

[KillerKat]

No to campbell. He has a mental condition that impede's his ability to learn on the fly. The reason he was so unsuccessful in oakland is because they moved him around, leave him at once position.

Bell played fine, it was our 3 interior lineman that dropped the ball.

Hangman is probably the least physically gifted of these three, but the big issue was just lack of communication and whiffing assignments. Whenever they all got their guy on a clean block it worked out fine, way WAY too many guys got in untouched on a consistent basis though. This happened in the Jets preseason game. These 3 guys are not on the same page and need to figure it out before the Saints** game.

Campbell has been playing tackle the whole preseason. Left and right.

[csx]

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[TylerDurden]

No to campbell. He has a mental condition that impede's his ability to learn on the fly. The reason he was so unsuccessful in oakland is because they moved him around, leave him at once position.

Bell played fine, it was our 3 interior lineman that dropped the ball.

Hangman is probably the least physically gifted of these three, but the big issue was just lack of communication and whiffing assignments. Whenever they all got their guy on a clean block it worked out fine, way WAY too many guys got in untouched on a consistent basis though. This happened in the Jets preseason game. These 3 guys are not on the same page and need to figure it out before the Saints** game.

Campbell is our backup RT. He wouldn't be switching positions and Bell has the body and ability to excel inside, IMO. And his "mental condition" didn't appear to affect him at all during the preseason. He looked really good.

[Darth Biscuit]

Silatolu is a rookie and Hangartner had his head up his ass yesterday... idk? Their DL was very aggressive and outplayed us... not much more than that.

Missed assignments, blown snaps, stupid penalties all add up... the players in the NFL are too good and take advantage of stupid mistakes...

[csx]

Also, is anyone not impressed we didn't keep a close game with ten fuggin rushing yards? If not for that blocked punt, we would have won. Cam threw a fluke pick and threw up another in desperation mode.

If not for all the reasons they played poorly, they actually played well?....that sure is reassuring.

[Frizzy350]

Well, I think our OL gets off to a slow start every year, as evidenced by the run production week to week. But, I don't know that their DL is that good just yet. A lot of the problems we had were with the extra blitzers and not so much the DL, at least from what I saw.

McCoy is a very talented DT and clayborn looks good as well. If it weren't for Suh overshadowing McCoy we would have heard MUCH more about him pre draft. Also notice that last season when the bucs completely collapsed it coincided with Mccoy being injured.

[Plewis]

The O-Line was the worst group of our team yesterday, and Hangman was our worst O-lineman. Why not move Garry Williams from backup tackle to starting RG? G-WIll has proved he can be effective as a starting lineman in the past and I can't comprehend why he shouldn't get the nod after Hangartner's awful performance.

All in all, I thought Gross definitely played the best game and showed a lot of effort. It's hard to grade Kalil's effort because he was often pulling ahead onto the linebackers while DeAngelo was getting tackled 3-4 yards in the backfield.