Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

How long before we start winning now?


panther4life

Recommended Posts

Obviously not going to happen this year..

Next year we are already over the cap.

Contrary to what some on here think we can't just cut our overpaid and or under utilized players with no consequence.

The contracts signed by Deangelo, Stewart,Kalil,Beason,Johnson,Godfrey and maybe a couple others make it more expensive to cut them this offseason than it would be to keep them on the roster for next year.

Gamble, Gross and Smith also have a good bit of guaranteed money and are actually worth every penny if used properly. They are aging but in the case of Gamble and Gross their contracts expire in a couple years and would be best to part ways with them at that point. Smith will probably retire soon or demand a trade pending on what we do in the offseason.

I don't know the exact amount already committed to next years cap but I've seen reports saying we are close and others mentioning we are over the cap already.

Point is I just don't see us having the ability to get a huge infusion of talent via free agency next year, so once again we will be reliant upon the draft and our current crop of players to turn things around. So if we are in face so devoid of talent and a couple draft picks next year can't save us, then we are at least 2 years away it appears.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think we'll be a totally different team next season and show that we can win some big games.

We won't be super bowl bound for another 2 years though, unfortunately.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think Williams guaranteed money is done after this season. He becomes much more expendable cap wise next season.

false...according to this link....http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/deangelo-williams/

We still owe him 9.6 million in guarantees and his scheduled cap hit next season is 8.7.. So we could cut him for future benefit but it would cost us 700k in net cap space.

If we waited until after the 13 season we could cut him for 6.4 million vs his cap hit of 9.2 of the 14 season which would save us 2.8 million that season plus 10.2 the next.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think we'll be a totally different team next season and show that we can win some big games.

We won't be super bowl bound for another 2 years though, unfortunately.

How do you think we will be a totally different team? I just don't see where we can get the cap space or anything to change the roster that much.

Sure we could(should) hire a new coaching staff and see how they utilize our roster but there won't be any major overhauls that I can see happening.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How do you think we will be a totally different team? I just don't see where we can get the cap space or anything to change the roster that much.

Sure we could(should) hire a new coaching staff and see how they utilize our roster but there won't be any major overhauls that I can see happening.

We'll have a new GM, and mist likely a new coaching staff. Hopefully we bring back the old Carolina Smash and Dash and learn how to utilize our big arm QB while still mixing in some trickery.

Our defense will have more attitude hopefully and our special teams won't be full of no names that choke under the lights.

A top 10 draft pick could bring in a another solid contributor.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How do you think we will be a totally different team? I just don't see where we can get the cap space or anything to change the roster that much.

Sure we could(should) hire a new coaching staff and see how they utilize our roster but there won't be any major overhauls that I can see happening.

As I've previously stated... and as was Marty's plan to begin with... These deals were all going to be restructured in the future anyways.

Marty is notorious for giving huge contracts and then having players restructure.

With a new GM coming in, I'm almost positive that most if not all deals will be restructured. The GM will have leverage, by saying this to them: do you want to get paid ridiculous amounts of money and continue to be mediocre? Or do you want to restructure so that we can actually contend for a Lombardi?

I'm positive that deals are going to be restructured.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As I've previously stated... and as was Marty's plan to begin with... These deals were all going to be restructured in the future anyways.

Marty is notorious for giving huge contracts and then having players restructure.

With a new GM coming in, I'm almost positive that most if not all deals will be restructured. The GM will have leverage, by saying this to them: do you want to get paid ridiculous amounts of money and continue to be mediocre? Or do you want to restructure so that we can actually contend for a Lombardi?

I'm positive that deals are going to be restructured.

I wonder which choice our friend, the model of consistency, @randywattson would choose.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The team itself has a LOT of talent. Any team with Cam Newton is going to be competitive. And the Panthers aren't out there getting blown out (has only happened once this year - to the reigning champs no less). I think the team shows up against the Bears but we're going to see the same result.

So to answer the question, next season. As long as the incompetent Ron Rivera is head coach, the Panthers will be horrible.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Running or being able to run the ball allows you to control the game. You control the pace, score, and time of possession. It does also allow your defense to rest and when they do get on the field, go 100%. That in turn forces the opponents offense not have 3 and outs. That's huge pressure, if the other team is just running the ball while having 14 plays drives.  If you are able to get 3.5 yards a carry and mix in smoke routes that gain similar while allowing the clock to run......you control the game.  Deal is nearly all rules changes in the 25 years have helped the passing part. Young folks and gambling folk want to see 37-45 scores. Those 10-16 score teams are poison and toxic, I don't care personally just win. I can enjoy a 6-3 slug-out just the same as 50-42.  There just too many factors to go over. Running used to be important for playoff ball, cause it was before half the league got domes. Running the ball in snow, cold, wet conditions was the path. Like NE played in that awful division each for 20 years during the Dynasty run, they normally had the #1 seed and home field. Thats why bill always had a #1 defense and enough offense to win. It was a huge advantage.    I have thought you need to pass in order to score, THEN you must be able to run the ball with 7minutes remaining to keep the other teams offense off the field. But if you're setup to pass and get no experience during the game to try rushing plays, who knows what you can do. So I feel you truly need a balanced attack, that's the key and main goal. Run for first downs went you need too and pass for TDs when you need too.       
    • The whole team seemed to be in a funk that game. At the end of the day I think the Super Bowl week and everything that came with it paired with the coaching staff stubbornly refusing to make any significant changes for their opponent was a perfect storm of circumstances that is exactly how you lose a Super Bowl. When you add the refs and the league blatantly trying to get Peyton Manning a walk off into the sunset ring it's a wrap. We needed someone with attitude willing to fight back. I wish we had 89 just for that one game. I think the result would have been different. He wouldn't have let that bullshit fly. He may have gotten himself ejected in the process. But it would have lit a fire under the rest of the team. Just my opinion.
×
×
  • Create New...