Steve Smith vs Champ Bailey. Who wins?

[panthersphan]

Where was Randy Moss when he was in Oakland?

Nowhere, he had no QB and look....nothing....just think if Tom Brady had Smitty?!

Denver4Life is just trying to stir up the pot, let him go, he doesn't know what he's talking about...at all...

It's funny how when people are playing the Panthers for 1 week they think they're "experts" on our team...yet all they can talk about is Steve Smith is a jerk, he punched some guy...blah blah blah...they have no idea about our Carolina Panthers...let them talk...because that's all it is...

[ChucktownK]

Champ Bailey had it but is losing it.

Randy Moss, no matter how good he is, is a one trick pony (that happens to work well for him right now)

Steve Smith has not gotten the ball as much as he is used to. Compare all you want but who on the current Denver roster has won the Triple F*cking Crown my Denver friend?

[thefuzz]

That's absolute fiction.

Have you watched the games, or are you just looking at pro bowl voting?

Champ is a very good corner, but nowhere near the top in the game anymore.

[Kaylore]

Have you watched the games, or are you just looking at pro bowl voting?

Champ is a very good corner, but nowhere near the top in the game anymore.

I've watched every single game Bailey's played since he was a Bronco.

Let's look at your ridiculous statement "Champ has been owned by the Chargers for three years in a row."

In 2006 Bailey finished second in defensive MVP voting and was a unanimous all-pro selection by the associated press. He had ten interceptions and one TD and was thrown at 32 times all year. The interception for a TD was in the Chargers game. He pretty much destroyed that year. In the Arizona game going up against Fitzgerald and Boldin he was targeted once and had two interceptions. This was because he left his responsibility to break on a lame duck ball from Leinart and intercept it.

In 2007 he was thrown at even less. This accounted for his much lower level of interceptions but was also because our rush defense was so bad that teams never needed to throw on us. We were "officially" ranked seventh against the pass, but why throw when you can pass. Despite the drubbing we took from the Chargers, Chambers did not catch a pass in the first meeting with the Chargers and in the second meeting Chambers caught four passes. The problem was our horrendous run defense and was no fault of Bailey's. Gates and Tomlinson just destroyed us.

This year Bailey was beat twice and this was one play action. It's largely because we have the worst starting safeties in the league and so they can't trust the safety help over the top. He did have an interception that game, though, so it's not like he was getting owned. Other than that game, Champ has largely shut his side of the field down. Against Randy Moss on MNF he knocked two passes away including what would have been a TD before pulling his groin and he's been injured ever since.

So there's my evidence of how what you said is bogus. Now it's your turn to cite examples and explain why he's as bad as you say he is. Obviously I expect you to be as detailed since you expected as much from me.:toetap05:

[megadeth078]

tl;dr

[House]

Champ is a very good DB. He has had an off year because of the injuries. I don't know if he is still THE BEST because Namdi is giving him a run for his money. However, when healthy, he is definetly top 2-3.

The problem for the Broncos and their fans this week is that Champ is NOT healthy. A healthy Steve Smith vs. Champ with a groin injury is not even a discussion. A groin injury limits your lateral movement and hampers your first step quickness. If you are playing a step behind Steve Smith you are screwed.

This is not a knock on Champ, if he was healthy I would say he has a better than average chance of shutting Smith down (i.e. less than 50 yds recieving). He isn't though and everyone knows it so its not even a question.

If they try and man up on Smith with Bailey and have their sh*tty safties on top coverage it won't be pretty. Plain and simple.

***DISCLAIMER**** Because of Denvers horrible run D Smith may have less than 100 yds recieving if we run for over 500 yds.

[Foochacho]

DENVER4LIFE, let me guess you are JWalk/CasinoRoyal

It isn't enough for you to be hated and banned on all the bronco forums?

You just have to come on other teams boards and be a douche.

[Fireball77]

It's ok Broncos fans, we don't hold him against you all. The rest of you have been cool.

[Mr. Scot]

Champ is a very good DB. He has had an off year because of the injuries. I don't know if he is still THE BEST because Namdi is giving him a run for his money. However, when healthy, he is definetly top 2-3.

The problem for the Broncos and their fans this week is that Champ is NOT healthy. A healthy Steve Smith vs. Champ with a groin injury is not even a discussion. A groin injury limits your lateral movement and hampers your first step quickness. If you are playing a step behind Steve Smith you are screwed.

This is not a knock on Champ, if he was healthy I would say he has a better than average chance of shutting Smith down (i.e. less than 50 yds recieving). He isn't though and everyone knows it so its not even a question.

If they try and man up on Smith with Bailey and have their sh*tty safties on top coverage it won't be pretty. Plain and simple.

***DISCLAIMER**** Because of Denvers horrible run D Smith may have less than 100 yds recieving if we run for over 500 yds.

Reasonable analysis.

[BroncosRockdaRockies]

"My arm is stronger than John Elway's and Brett Favre's." - Jay Cutler

Well considering John is 23 years older than he is and Brett is around 14 years older it better be.... Besides that fact, what kind of player says something like that? A three year snot-nosed kid proclaiming superiority over two Hall of Famers? Denver fans are proud of that? I thought some WR's were bad.

Actually you might want to do your homework on the subject. Jay cutler reached 50 TD's in less amount of games breaking a franchise record and he did it faster then Elway.

And as far as Brett Farve goes the dude opened himself up to being Put Down or Dogged when he came out of retirement saying he still has what it takes. Now go look at the Game stats Between Cutler and Farve when the Broncos took a bite out of the Big Apple!

As far as Cutler goes we love it when everyone underestimates the "Gunslinger" he always plays better and everytime the other team's fans are like Damn i take that back Cutler has an Arm!!!!!

And for clarification the comparison was pointed at when they were all the same age.

But anyways as far as the topic goes Champ and Smith will be a good Match-up. I don't know where the reports are coming from that says champ is not a 100% Because he will only play if he is 100% due to our chances of getting to the playoffs. We are not going to jeopardise one of our key players over a non conference game. And champ has been practicing for the last 2 weeks.

[carpanfan96]

Actually you might want to do your homework on the subject. Jay cutler reached 50 TD's in less amount of games breaking a franchise record and he did it faster then Elway.

And as far as Brett Farve goes the dude opened himself up to being Put Down or Dogged when he came out of retirement saying he still has what it takes. Now go look at the Game stats Between Cutler and Farve when the Broncos took a bite out of the Big Apple!

As far as Cutler goes we love it when everyone underestimates the "Gunslinger" he always plays better and everytime the other team's fans are like Damn i take that back Cutler has an Arm!!!!!

And for clarification the comparison was pointed at when they were all the same age.

But anyways as far as the topic goes Champ and Smith will be a good Match-up. I don't know where the reports are coming from that says champ is not a 100% Because he will only play if he is 100% due to our chances of getting to the playoffs. We are not going to jeopardise one of our key players over a non conference game. And champ has been practicing for the last 2 weeks.

He hasn't been practicing at full speed, yesterday was supposed to be the first time he has tested his groin at full speed since the injury. link

[BroncosRockdaRockies]

He hasn't been practicing at full speed, yesterday was supposed to be the first time he has tested his groin at full speed since the injury. link

I understand what his status is. I was simply saying we don't need him to play if he isn't a 100%

[Jrock88]

Champ and Smith are the best at what they do in my opinion. That said, I don't see the matchup being too exciting as we won't be passing much.

[DENVER4LIFE]

I understand what his status is. I was simply saying we don't need him to play if he isn't a 100%

Don't argue with kitty fans, just let us put the smackdown.