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Panther fans expectations for Everette Brown

Saint J

By Saint J,
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rayzor Grand Master

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You've come to the wrong place if you're in search of consensus.

not true.

more of an impact than brayton? maybe. i'm pretty confident he could and will. more than peppers, though? i would say he would provide more constant pressure than peppers (high non-stop motor vs. peppers) but not have as much as an impact than him.

huh? I didn't make any argument about the topic, I was just stating that consensus is rarely reached on any topic at the Huddle.

Find me a thread where the various members of this board have reached consensus on a topic. And no that topic can not be about the merits of boobs.

did i prove your point? :cool:
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I expect more out of c. johnson than I do out of brown.

That is the big question mark. If Peppers comes back strong who do you play at the other DE, Brayton or Johnson. I could be wrong but I think Meeks will favor Johnson unless we get gashed by the run alot to that side. It might be crazy but I wonder if they might put Brayton some at Lewis's spot given that Brayton played DE in a 3-4 which is similar to what Lewis plays in a 4-3. Given Lewis may not be around until at least training camp after off-season surgery, might be one option.

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That is the big question mark. If Peppers comes back strong who do you play at the other DE, Brayton or Johnson. I could be wrong but I think Meeks will favor Johnson unless we get gashed by the run alot to that side. It might be crazy but I wonder if they might put Brayton some at Lewis's spot given that Brayton played DE in a 3-4 which is similar to what Lewis plays in a 4-3. Given Lewis may not be around until at least training camp after off-season surgery, might be one option.

i hope johnson starts..i dont get the arugument that he was not strong against the run...we had him at DT and DE last year..and johnson is one of the strongest guys on the team..i hope at least he gets a shot to start.

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i hope johnson starts..i dont get the arugument that he was not strong against the run...we had him at DT and DE last year..and johnson is one of the strongest guys on the team..i hope at least he gets a shot to start.

Being good against the run does require strength but also agility and good technique. He has to be good at shedding blocks, anticipating the way the runner is going and then has to be able to finish by tackling strong. Johnson came here very unpolished having been a junior when he came out. Guys like Brayton have been in the league and have picked up things along the way. Johnson will continue to imporve and this may be his breakout year. But for the past 2 years he has not been that prolific in the tackling department collecting a total of 27 tackles. Yeah I know he didn't start or play that much---but there is a reason for that.

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