Do you believe suicides go to hell?

[mmmbeans]

I would seek the advice help of a church you are familiar with. I would attend a service and/or seek an appointment with a priest. Or if your not comfortable doing that yourself, then i am sure you have a friend or family member who is a Christian who can help you with this.

I am not a priest, but I do believe it is the duty of every Christian to spread the word of God...

Life belongs to God. It is never our place to take our own life or someone else's life.

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own, you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).

The solution to despair and hopelessness is not suicide, but faith in God.

"We wait in hope for the LORD; he is our help and our shield. In him our hearts rejoice, for we trust in his holy name. May your unfailing love rest upon us, O LORD, even as we put our hope in you" (Psalms 33:20-22).

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-dml/dml-y038.html

If you want to talk, PM me your number.

Thus sayeth Boner Champ.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

If you have HBO On Demand the documentary HOW TO DIE IN OREGON may still be available. It was still there in October. The PBS documentary already mentioned is good, but this one is a must see for those contemplating such an important issue.

HOW TO DIE IN OREGON explores the complexities of the aid-in-dying debate, interviewing doctors on both sides of the issue, as well as activists, patients' families and opinion-makers such as journalist and author Derek Humphry, who wrote the bestselling suicide handbook "Final Exit" and founded the Hemlock Society USA, which aims to decriminalize voluntary euthanasia nationwide. The film also travels to Washington state, where Seattle activist Nancy Niedzielski campaigns for that state's Death with Dignity Act following her husband's slow and painful death from brain cancer. Washington voters passed the law in 2008.

In 1994, Oregon became the first state in the U.S. to legalize physician aid-in-dying. At the time, only two countries (Switzerland and the Netherlands) permitted the practice, but more than 500 Oregonians have since ended their life using the law.

At the heart of HOW TO DIE IN OREGON are the patients, families and friends who grapple with the state's legal option of physician aid-in-dying. Among the stories the film tells is that of Cody Curtis, a 54-year-old wife and mother who suffers heroically through a roller coaster of emotions and on-again, off-again symptoms stemming from cancer of the liver, symptoms as debilitating as they are humiliating. After initial surgery seems successful, the cancer returns, prompting Curtis to legally obtain the lethal barbiturates to hold "in reserve" as a final option. "It's very comforting to know they are here," she says. "It's my choice when to take them and whether to take them."

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/how-to-die-in-oregon/synopsis.html#/documentaries/how-to-die-in-oregon/synopsis.html

A review of the documentary

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/movies/25sundance.html

[Hawk]

scared what the answers would be if this thread was changed from suiciders to masturbators!

[Inimicus]

I'm typically one of those folks that's particularly hard on people who take their lives. I see it as the last and maybe greatest attention whoring act of a coward.

But that's when it's an act of emotion.

But when the decision is made by God/The Universe/Fate or whatever you believe in, we'll that's a different story. I don't think that there is anything wrong with simply hastening that which is imminate. There is no nobility in enduring a long and difficult passing.

As someone who believes in God I can't reconcile the idea of any "Go to Jail, Go directly to Jail. Do not pass Go" with the idea of a just and loving deity.

[Bronn]

Also, the asshole in me just has to ask...

If someone commits suicide, and there is an omnipotent god, then said god willed suicide to happen... no?

Religious folk will be the first to tell you that everything happens for a reason, until something like suicide happens, and then they'll immediately pass judgement...

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Whatever gets you through the night is alright, ultimately everyone must decide for themselves.

The way I look at it is, there is no scientific evidence of a cognizant existence prior to conception (a truly preconceived notion) or postmortem.

It is estimated there have been approximately 100 billion modern humans born, all but 7 billion are now dead. Haven't run into one wayward soul yet.

I wouldn't be the least bit upset if I were wrong, but wishing it was true is simply not enough for me,

However, if I am right, I'll be as equally preoccupied with this issue after death, as I was before I was born.

[stirs]

Whatever gets you through the night is alright, ultimately everyone must decide for themselves.

The way I look at it is, there is no scientific evidence of a cognizant existence prior to conception (a truly preconceived notion) or postmortem.

It is estimated there have been approximately 100 billion modern humans born, all but 7 billion are now dead. Haven't run into one wayward soul yet.

I wouldn't be the least bit upset if I were wrong, but wishing it was true is simply not enough for me,

However, if I am right, I'll be as equally preoccupied with this issue after death, as I was before I was born.

How exactly could science prove or disprove such and existence?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

How exactly could science prove or disprove such and existence?

Advocates of fanciful ideas ultimately resort to "It can not be proved or disproved."

By the standard of "you can't prove it doesn't exist", we would need to include things such as vampires, werewolves, leprechauns, trolls, monsters under the bed, and any other fanciful idea that pops into anyone's head.

Ask anyone that believes in something fanciful and it ultimately comes down to "faith".

There is a total lack of verifiable evidence for an after life, just like for monsters under the bed.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

also the female orgasm is a myth

[stirs]

You are the one who brought up science and how it had no evidence. I am just asking how science tests or gets results or proves or disproves "existence". Would that by definition be outside of the scientific realm? Oooh gasp!

It was a question. You can frame it with monsters under the bed, but when I cut the light on, they are not there. Doubt it is the same. If you don't have an answer, just move on and try not to demean everyone on your way out.

[mmmbeans]

You are the one who brought up science and how it had no evidence. I am just asking how science tests or gets results or proves or disproves "existence". Would that by definition be outside of the scientific realm? Oooh gasp!

It was a question. You can frame it with monsters under the bed, but when I cut the light on, they are not there. Doubt it is the same. If you don't have an answer, just move on and try not to demean everyone on your way out.

i've never cut the light on and found god under my bed.

[stirs]

i've never cut the light on and found god under my bed.

You had better hope you don't

[mmmbeans]

You had better hope you don't

"immaculate conception don't happen on it's own beans!"

:fade to black.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

when i was 11, my priest told me "God is watching you masturbate!"

i asked, "is God a pedophile too, father?"