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Superbowl HCs (first 2 yrs)

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CRA Grand Master

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Oh, doom and gloom....Rivera hasn't made us a Superbowl contender in 2 seasons so he is now poo. Lets look at what the few winners did as they started growing as HCs (record after their first 2 yrs as HC)

A look at the last 15 rings handed out. In the last 15 years only 11 HCs can claim they are Superbowl winners.

2011 - Coughlin - 13-19

2010 - McCarthy - 21-11 (team was 12-20 the 2 years prior)

2009 - Payton - 17-15 (team was 11-21 the two years prior)

2008 - Tomlin- 22-10 Superbowl (team was 19-13 the 2 years prior)

2007 - Coughlin - 13-19

2006 - Dungy -16-16

2005 - Cowher - 18-12 (team was 16-16 2 years prior)

2004 - Belichick 13-19

2003 - Belichick - 13-19

2002 - Gruden- 16-16

2001 - Belichick - 13-19

2000- Billick - 20-12 - Superbowl (team was 12-19 two years prior)

1999- Vermiel - 9-19

1998 - Shannahan - 8-12 (fired)

1997 - Shanahan - 8-12 (fired)

Out of the last 11 Superbowl winning HCs (last 15 seasons) only 5 won more games than they lost 2 years in to their head coaching careers during the regular season.

Now Ron.

13-19 (team was 10-22 the two years prior).

All I am saying is Rome wasn't built in a day. We don't fully know Ron's big picture potential. He deserves one more year to show his development. Sure, there are exceptions....sometimes a coach like Brian Billick will take over a team that was losing and wins Superbowl in two years. But Brian Billick isn't a reason to fire Rivera. Only other coach to win it in 2 years in recent history was a essentially a turn key operation in Mike Tomlin.

Now, can someone please make a Ron Rivera I Got This gif?

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The 2-14 year he stepped in afterwards, the lock-out situation, and a rookie QB are huge factors, IMO....Not excuses, but impacting factors...

Rivera came into a situation where he shouldn't have won more than 3 games, but since he won 6 people wanted 12 the next year. Give people an inch, they want a mile. Logic leaves the building too early for many people.

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I believe Ron is a good coach who the players respect, however Chud is a dumbass who's playcalling is extremely unpredictable.

I believe that a lot of our faults can be placed on him, look at the way he calls second half games. All those fuging three and outs.

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All those coaches are no where as bad a decision maker and game adjustment as Chico

You say that, but you are looking at many and comparing the decisions they made once they developed into HCs vs. a green Ron.

You think Belichick, Shanahan, Vermiel, etc were viewed as great HCs 2 years in? or bumbling fools that wouldn't pan out?

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CRA, what's the success/fail ratio for coaches who started off their careers with two losing season?

Well, you would have to give me a time period and a more specific group of HCs....but I don't need to look up the stats to tell you most regardless of what criteria looked at don't win rings. Too many teams and only 1 prize.

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Rivera came into a situation where he shouldn't have won more than 3 games, but since he won 6 people wanted 12 the next year. Give people an inch, they want a mile. Logic leaves the building too early for many people.

That's because this team is a 12 win team today. We left 5 games on the table this year.

And Rivera made obvious coaching blunders.

I've been hoping he gets one more year just because I think he has great potential but I hope he is on the shortest leash in 2013.

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