Dear media, please stop telling me Andrew Luck is good

[CRA]

fewer attempts.. I keep hearing that

I will agree that the receivers are about the same, and stats don't lie as far as attempts go.

However, the difference here and what helped Cam a bunch is his athletic ability and his backfield support. The ability the likes of which Luck can only dream of and Double trouble to the tune of 50 million dollars (give or take)

so the fug what if it was fewer attempts. I am not comparing the two. Cam's record is gone none the less and Luck had a FANTASTIC rookie year.

why are you people so insecure that you cannot admit such a commonly known and simply understood fact?

get the fug over yourselves. Cam is better IMHO but Luck is very good.

I don't give a poo about the record. Records fall all the time. But with all records you look at the new guy and compare the differences. Like Dickerson and OJ's rushing seasons....people can beat them but it is always worth noting they put the numbers up in 14 games.

[tiger7_88]

The guy threw for well over 4000 yards and 23 TDs carrying the full load of the offense with little running game to help. The guy averaged almost 40 attempts per game as a rookie. That's absurd.

You're just hatin'.

Last year when Cam had 21 passing TDs and 17 ints it was noted by all the "experts" that that was very weak and just a sign on how much he would need to improve AS A PASSER.

Oh, by the way, Cam's "low" 60% completion rate last year was ANOTHER sigh by all the "experts" about how much he needed to improve AS A PASSER.

Andrew Luck this year has had 23 passing TDs and 18 ints with a 54% completion rate and you and the "experts" can't seem to get off of his knob.

[pstall]

you know what? i bet if the Colts were not in the playoffs today, you would not have all these threads and you wouldn't have heard more things about Luck.

see how that works?

[thatlookseasy]

Last year when Cam had 21 passing TDs and 17 ints it was noted by all the "experts" that that was very weak and just a sign on how much he would need to improve AS A PASSER.

Oh, by the way, Cam's "low" 60% completion rate last year was ANOTHER sigh by all the "experts" about how much he needed to improve AS A PASSER.

Andrew Luck this year has had 23 passing TDs and 18 ints with a 54% completion rate and you and the "experts" can't seem to get off of his knob.

So what?

[carolinarolls]

Luck is supposedly just as athletic, and our RBs have been laughable through Cam's career. You're literally diminishing what Cam has done to make Luck look better.

diminishing? no.

I am a fan of Cam first and foremost. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous you insecure bastards are by stating commonly known facts. Even you ignorant morons should understand that Cam is more athletic than Luck (come the f-ck on already) and that our backfield is MUCH better than anything luck has ever had.

Even if everything else was equal this is enough to validate his accomplishments.

Stop trying to project on me what you are doing because this entire moronic thread is about tearing down what Luck has accomplished. It takes a real f-cking idiot to try to turn it around now that someone has cast a little light on your butt-hurt complaining over lack of media-hype or whatever the f-ck you idiots are whining about today.

[pstall]

Wilson and RG3 both ahead of Cam this year in terms of football outsider metrics. which are very thorough and relevant.

we need to suck it up as fan base. we can go around the horn on stats and junk but if we don't win more than we lose, who gives a crap about stats.

[tiger7_88]

So what?

So what is that nobody is saying about how hard Andrew Luck needs to work in the offseason to improve AS A PASSER.

They just assume it will happen... through osmosis, I guess?

[carolinarolls]

Last year when Cam had 21 passing TDs and 17 ints it was noted by all the "experts" that that was very weak and just a sign on how much he would need to improve AS A PASSER.

Oh, by the way, Cam's "low" 60% completion rate last year was ANOTHER sigh by all the "experts" about how much he needed to improve AS A PASSER.

No. These two statements were never linked by anyone (except you, just now). Nobody ever said "60 is not good enough, he needs to improve as a passer" That is just stupid. Stop being stupid.

Andrew Luck this year has had 23 passing TDs and 18 ints with a 54% completion rate and you and the "experts" can't seem to get off of his knob.

I think you have sufficiently outed yourself as ignorant... try again tomorrow after you mull things over a bit.

[carolinarolls]

So what is that nobody is saying about how hard Andrew Luck needs to work in the offseason to improve AS A PASSER.

They just assume it will happen... through osmosis, I guess?

osmosis?

seriously stop trying. Go to bed little guy.

[Pimpdaddy]

....Luck is major clutch...and hes only going to get better...

[thatlookseasy]

So what is that nobody is saying about how hard Andrew Luck needs to work in the offseason to improve AS A PASSER.

They just assume it will happen... through osmosis, I guess?

He's a rookie QB. Most rookie QBs improve after their rookie year, so people assume Luck will improve

Stop letting the media influence your opinion of the guy

[tiger7_88]

osmosis?

seriously stop trying. Go to bed little guy.

Will do, as soon as you get Andrew Luck's sweaty balls out of your mouth.

[fieryprophet]

I wrote a goddamn quarterback metric. I work with ProFootballFocus. I know what goddamn good quarterbacking looks like. Andrew Luck was an average quarterback this year and is a distant third in the rookie race.

End of story, c-rolls. It's not butthurtedness, it's the goddamn truth.

[Kakarot]

So what is that nobody is saying about how hard Andrew Luck needs to work in the offseason to improve AS A PASSER.

They just assume it will happen... through osmosis, I guess?

THIS.

All we heard last offseason was how Cam needed to improve as a passer. Luck has virtually the same stats minus the rushing yds & tds, but with a much lower completion %(60 per to 54 per) and you hear none of that with him. It is just assumed he's going to improve. Why is that I wonder?

You even have people on here, and other places who concede and say Cam will never be a surgeon or such. Well based on Lucks stats this year, it's safe to assume Luck will never be that either.