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Which helps more?

Happy Panther

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I'm going with the former star if he is as good as advertised would

Help eliminate double teams on Johnson and Hardy not to mention keeping our speed at LB clean to make plays, even the best cover men can't cover more than 5 seconds in today's nfl.

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I honestly think a stud DT would help us a lot more than a stud DB. A DL that can apply quick and constant pressure can force bad throws, picks, etc more than a DB keeping 1, at most 2, guys covered can lead to coverage sacks. There's always another option or a check down if the QB has time. If the OL is keeping the QB safe, a QB will find someone or a WR will eventually get open. If a DL is getting constant pressure it forces the offense to change it's plan to quick dump offs and screens where our great LB corps can handle it.

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I think a stud DT helps more, but it normally takes a guy a couple years to become that. A good safety would probably help us more immediately.

I agree with you if it is anyone other than star, I think he has the tools to make an immediate nfl impact especially when you consider who our other options would be.

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I agree with you if it is anyone other than star, I think he has the tools to make an immediate nfl impact especially when you consider who our other options would be.

That's true, and some guys do. Star might be one of those special guys, but it sometimes hard to tell. I thought Gerald McCoy could come right in too, but it took him a bit to get going. Hopefully, we get Star and he's special (A transition might be easier on him with this team too, considering that he's surrounded by two great ends)

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considering CJ,hardy, and alexander and then adding in dwan for the next couple years i'd say we were stronger on the DL by quite a bit and what we had made our secondary (minus SS) look not quite so bad towards the end last year.

i think that despite the loss of gamble (which really didn't impact the D last year anyway when he went on IR, imo) gettleman elevated the secondary with the additions he made. he didn't add much to the top, but what he did was make the unit better as a whole, but it wasn't enough...just my opinion.

the quickest and easiest thing to do to help out the secondary is provide more of a pass rush and keep more pressure on the QB and make it easier on the LBs to control the action in the middle and blitzing when needed by adding a big guy who can help eat up blockers on passing plays and take care of business in draw plays and play action fakes...adding a bit of security and making it safer for the other 3 guys on the line to focus on getting to the QB.

we need more help in the secondary, but beefing up the interior of the DL will buy some time.

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Both- football is the ultimate team game

that's the goal, but it's not often you can achieve that...esp. in a short amount of time. that's why i mentioned the quickest and easiest way to improve. you make that front stout as possible and you make everyone's job behind them easier. we're closer to having a stout DL than a stout secondary. take care of that first.
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That's true, and some guys do. Star might be one of those special guys, but it sometimes hard to tell. I thought Gerald McCoy could come right in too, but it took him a bit to get going. Hopefully, we get Star and he's special (A transition might be easier on him with this team too, considering that he's surrounded by two great ends)

In my opinion it takes the guys that rely more on speed and quickness at DT like Mccoy longer to develop than the guys who are more power based like Star and Suh.

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DT for sure... Yea we would like some shutdown dbs but the sooner you get to the qb, the shorter the routes of the receivers become, and then they gotta stem out and find the QB/open space creating even more time for the DLine to get to the QB.

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