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Charlotte Hornets player salaries/contract situations moving forward


Carl Spackler

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Maybe I am weird but I still say we carry over our cap space unless we can get a legit all star and then next off season really try to revamp our roster around our young core players.

In other words we should basically tank one more season rack up as many draft picks as possible and use our cap space liberally next off season

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Hear that Tyrus Thomas?  Amnesty is looking for you. 

 

I wish someone still wanted Ben Gordon so he would opt out of that last year of the deal.

 

And FINALLY... Diop is no more. 

 

Future is bright... save some loot and spend it wisely.

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Thats a team option.  He was already amnestied

 

Right, the Mavs right now are paying the difference between what we pay him and what they still owe, I believe?  He's pretty cheap for a big body, actually.  It's unfair for us to expect him to be a starter at this point in his career, and I'd be happy if he can be a solid bench contributor.  I feel he has decent vet presence too for the young guys.

 

He's actually on WFNZ the drive on Wednesdays maybe?  One of those days.  He's pretty good on radio actually.

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What is good about the Diop and Ben Gordon salaries is that we have to be one of the top teams in the league to help facilitate big multi-team trades.  We could very well be the team that helps Dwight Howard get to Houston or Dallas giving up expiring contracts in return for some young players or additional picks.

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What is good about the Diop and Ben Gordon salaries is that we have to be one of the top teams in the league to help facilitate big multi-team trades.  We could very well be the team that helps Dwight Howard get to Houston or Dallas giving up expiring contracts in return for some young players or additional picks.

 

Why would Houston need help to get Howard?

 

Howard is a free agent and the Rockets are not interested in a sign and trade.

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Why do we want to facilitate trades to make other teams better? I want to see MJ personally on the phone with Howard and Paul the day he is allowed. They may not come. We suck, we're a small market, we have no tradition, no one has ever dreamed of playing for the Bobcats when they grew up (Hornets are a different story). What do we have going for us though? We have money, we have a rebrand coming that (from my view out here) seems to have the city excited, and we have an owner that was the greatest player to ever play the game (90% of the nba grew up idolizing). He should have a lot more pull in nba circles than he has shown. So either he's (a) too involved (makes bad decisions, (b) not involved enough (no personal interest), © a at times and b at times (cant find a happy medium), or (d) has already made himself a laughing stock of the nba.

Dwight failed playing sidekick to Kobe. Make him the man again. I understand building through the draft and developing our young guys, but they are not developing by winning 20-30 games per year. Winning breeds winners and losing breeds losers. They need playoff experience to develop.

Sorry for the rant. I got the rebrand I wanted, now I want to see the process completed with a winning team.

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Why would Houston need help to get Howard?

 

Howard is a free agent and the Rockets are not interested in a sign and trade.

Howard may request a sign and trade which would allow him to get an additional year on a max deal by signing with current team instead of new team.

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Why do we want to facilitate trades to make other teams better? I want to see MJ personally on the phone with Howard and Paul the day he is allowed. They may not come. We suck, we're a small market, we have no tradition, no one has ever dreamed of playing for the Bobcats when they grew up (Hornets are a different story). What do we have going for us though? We have money, we have a rebrand coming that (from my view out here) seems to have the city excited, and we have an owner that was the greatest player to ever play the game (90% of the nba grew up idolizing). He should have a lot more pull in nba circles than he has shown. So either he's (a) too involved (makes bad decisions, ( B) not involved enough (no personal interest), © a at times and b at times (cant find a happy medium), or (d) has already made himself a laughing stock of the nba.

Dwight failed playing sidekick to Kobe. Make him the man again. I understand building through the draft and developing our young guys, but they are not developing by winning 20-30 games per year. Winning breeds winners and losing breeds losers. They need playoff experience to develop.

Sorry for the rant. I got the rebrand I wanted, now I want to see the process completed with a winning team.

In facilitating trades, the middle man usually ends up with all the future assets (picks/cash) and young potential players while the other teams fight over the big names.

 

With Ben Gordon's expiring deal, he will be appealing in the open market.

 

I agree we should give a call to Dwight and Chris Paul, but realistically I don't think we have a chance, so I think we need to keep positioning ourselves with assets and young talent.  I am not looking to make any teams better unless we end up with more than what we have now... pretty simple why we would facilitate a trade if you understand NBA contract struture.

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