Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Rights to the Hornets Brand?

ckad79

By ckad79,
in Charlotte Hornets

Recommended Posts

ckad79 Newbie

ckad79

Posted
Posted

One cool things that seeing all this Hornets merchandise for sale at the Bobcats' team store does, is that it puts to rest a lot of the rumors about the old brand and what if anything Charlotte would have rights to or could use. I had kept hearing from those against the brand change, that New Orleans owned all rights to the Hornets brand and even if Charlotte got the name back. it wouldn't have any of it's history, etc to use. At the time, that sounded like a bummer. 

 

Obviously, if the team has the rights to sell merchandise with Muggsy and LJ on it or even use the old logo on hats, that is not the case. Of course, the online shop is not selling products featuring ex-players who spent time in both New Orleans or Charlotte like Baron Davis or guys exclusive to New Orleans like Chris Paul. Still, this goes to show that Charlotte does have some rights to part of the Hornets history. From the beginning, I felt the NBA would split up the history books. Glad they are.

 

This is cool... maybe we can hang that old attendance banner up again? Actually there is a lot of cool things the franchise could do, now that we know the Hornets aren't basically "starting over" with their history.

 

18hornet_banner.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites
dpanther69 Collaborator

dpanther69

Posted
Posted

We own the name, what we don't own is the records, players, etc..

 

However, if we really wanted to we could acquire all the records and stuff like that. I think it would be a nice gesture to acquire the records and stuff that were exclusive to Charlotte, i.e.: Mugsy, LJ, Zo, attendance records, playoff appearances etc.

Teeray stated in another post that he read that New Orleans and Charlotte would be able to share the Hornets history. I am not sure of his source but maybe he can relay bthe source to confirm.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CarolinaPanthers8789 Newbie

CarolinaPanthers8789

Posted
Posted

To be honest, we deserve every record that was accumulated in Charlotte. We fans were there for that attendance record, those retired Hersey's, and those playoff performances.

New Orleans can keep all the records (which were few) that they accumulated in New Orleans, but we deserve the ones that we fans helped set in Charlotte.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
PantherAZ Newbie

PantherAZ

Posted
Posted

Three things...

A. Honestly, does any of this really matter? If the Charlotte Hornets had won an NBA title (or even EC title) I could maybe see it. I supported them that team for every win and died a little for every loss. Will do the same for this one. That's all that matters to me.

B. Anyone that claims to know the technicalities of that is incorrect. This has never happened before in professional sports. Jordan, Benson, and Silver have not worked all that out yet. Needs time.

C. As much as I hate the Saints, all things New Orleans, and always have hated Benson, he seems to be very accomidating with this situation and seems to want to separate the Pelicans from all things Hornets and Charlotte anyway. It seems like he wants the Pelicans to be an expansion team of sorts.

I get the feeling everyone is going to be happy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
teeray Contributor

teeray

Posted
Posted

We own the name, what we don't own is the records, players, etc..

 

However, if we really wanted to we could acquire all the records and stuff like that. I think it would be a nice gesture to acquire the records and stuff that were exclusive to Charlotte, i.e.: Mugsy, LJ, Zo, attendance records, playoff appearances etc.

 

As Proudiddy said this is kind of unprecedented with the exception of the Cleveland Browns who moved away then they got a new expansion team and named it the Cleveland Browns.  That was different because there was a lawsuit when the Browns attempted to move and eventually the owner, Art Model, was allowed to move the team but was forced to relinquish name, colors, logos, and history all of which were kept in a trust.

 

But as I understand it teams do not own the players.  The NBA does.  So we have every right to honor former Charlotte Hornets, or even hang jerseys in our rafters.

 

I don't know about records and such and how that would be handled but my guess is that will be negotiated by the NBA, Hornets, and Pelicans.

 

I had read on twitter the day the Board of Governors voted, that it was likely that the history of the time the Pelicans were in Charlotte would likely be shared.  I was on my mobile and couldn't link it.

 

This article on Deadspin is the only article that I can find now that mentions it.

 

http://deadspin.com/the-charlotte-hornets-are-coming-back-824093267

 

The name change will not go into effect until the 2014-15 season, to give the team time to design new uniforms and logos, and print all that new merchandise. It's not known whether Charlotte will return to the teal-and-purple color scheme of the original team, but it's probably a safe bet. It's also likely that Charlotte and New Orleans will "share" the history of those original Hornets.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ckad79 Newbie

ckad79

Posted
  • Author
Posted

I guess my point is, if Jordan and his team has no rights to the Hornets brand... how are they allowed to sell merchandise featuring ex-players and logos? Unless any team can technically sell any merchandise from any other team at their official store? Possibly.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
teeray Contributor

teeray

Posted
Posted

I guess my point is, if Jordan and his team has no rights to the Hornets brand... how are they allowed to sell merchandise featuring ex-players and logos? Unless any team can technically sell any merchandise from any other team at their official store? Possibly.

You probably need an attorney to decipher all of that. But as I understand it we now own the rights to the Hornets name and Benson relinquished that when he changed names.

But to answer your question, I don't really know. I mean as far as I know we don't own the rights to the Cougars but we have used their throwback jerseys from time to time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
The_Cannon Newbie

The_Cannon

Posted
Posted

It is a difficult situation and definitely new ground. I know when the Supersonics moved to Oklahoma City they took all the records Conference Championships with them and that when Seattle was trying to get a new team essentially everything would stay in Seattle. But this is a little different because we are getting our original team back. I honestly can't see why NOLA would want to keep any of that because they are trying to essentially start a new franchise. I could only see NOLA putting up a fight if the Hornets had won a championship.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • raleigh-panther
      This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)

      By raleigh-panther · Posted

      Watching Williams last night, guy has an arm and nfl ability  i see no future with Young.  either a player has nfl ability or they dont  cant survive on 20 or less points a game 
    • raleigh-panther
      Predictions from Charlotte observer sports writers

      By raleigh-panther · Posted

      Fowler: Bucs 23, Panthers 16. Baker Mayfield only won a single game when he was an unimpressive Carolina starter, but somehow he’s 5-0 when playing AGAINST the Panthers. For the Panthers to pull off this upset, they’ll need to score at least in the mid-20s. With Tampa Bay relatively healthy following a mini-bye (and Mike Evans’ return is huge), it feels like this will be too tough a task. Kaye: Bucs 24, Panthers 20. The win-loss-win-loss streak comes to an end. It’s hard to trust the play-calling following the loss to the New Orleans Saints. The Panthers know what’s on the line, but they also knew last week, too. It’ll be close; I just have trouble trusting a positive outcome after a defeating one on the road. Zietlow: Panthers 38, Bucs 35. This prediction goes against conventional wisdom, but then again, conventional wisdom doesn’t seem to apply to these Panthers. This group, after all, has yet to lose back-to-back contests since Weeks 1 and 2. I think they win this one to make Week 18 interesting — and yes, that’s even with motivated Baker Mayfield and future Hall of Famer Mike Evans in good form. Why not?
    • Hoenheim
      Week 16 - Other NFL Games

      By Hoenheim · Posted

      Sam developed into a different player after he mostly sat for a year and learned a ton by being in that QB room under Shannahan in San Francisco.  Then he went to the Vikings who have a poo load of talent and another genius level offensive mind at HC in Kevin O Connel. I think they genuinely built up his confidence in a way he never did in New York or Charlotte.  He would not have been the same player if he stayed here IMO. Especially if he had been involved in that disaster season with Frank Reich in 2023, that might have cooked his confidence for good.  I guess you could argue we wouldn't have been that bad if we also kept cmc and dj i guess. 
×
×
  • Create New...