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We only know that he is on the hot seat with fans. We don't know if he is on the hot seat with the owner and GM....especially if the GM is setting things up for 2014 and beyond.

Um, yes we do know he is on the hot seat.

Did you miss last year where Richardson made a big production of not firing Ron and allowing his under contract coach another year????? Right before he hired the GM?

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You don't ignore everything. If it has proven you suck at something in real games and the following offseason you do nothing to fix it....and you suck practicing basic aspects of it....you can talk about it

Of course you don't ignore anything. You fix everything you can and adapt to everything as the season progresses. I and most people here just don't agree with your analysis. Gettleman has fixed everything he could and continues to do what he thinks he needs to. I am pretty happy where we sit right now. I think we are going to have a good year. You are gloom and doom all the time. This whole I am just a realist is crap. I am a realist as much as anyone. But I am optimistic about my team until I see a reason not to be. Preseason is not a great place to evaluate much.
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Of course you don't ignore anything. You fix everything you can and adapt to everything as the season progresses. I and most people here just don't agree with your analysis. Gettleman has fixed everything he could and continues to do what he thinks he needs to. I am pretty happy where we sit right now. I think we are going to have a good year. You are gloom and doom all the time. This whole I am just a realist is crap. I am a realist as much as anyone. But I am optimistic about my team until I see a reason not to be. Preseason is not a great place to evaluate much.

No....Gettlemen also has to prepare this franchise for what would occur if Rivera is fired in a few short months.

That reality, means he has to factor that high possiblity into decision making. Can't do "everything" to win now if you do that.

That isn't doom and gloom

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No....Gettlemen also has to prepare this franchise for what would occur if Rivera is fired in a few short months.

That reality, means he has to factor that high possiblity into decision making. Can't do "everything" to win now if you do that.

That isn't doom and gloom

Another myth you have created assuming Rivera is gone. I have heard nothing but support for Rivera by Gettleman. He is doing everything he can to insure success. To do anything else is ridiculous. Gettleman is all in like everyone else.

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Another myth you have created assuming Rivera is gone. I have heard nothing but support for Rivera by Gettleman. He is doing everything he can to insure success noose. To do anything else is ridiculous. Gettleman is all in like everyone else.

Again, Richardson made it clear last year Rivera was on the hot seat making a big production over not firing him.

Gettlemen was hired under the condition RR would be his coach this year. There is no response DG could give but support.

And the stage is set for if RR is fired. DG has done a good job in that regard

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Again, Richardson made it clear last year Rivera was on the hot seat making a big production over not firing him.

Gettlemen was hired under the condition RR would be his coach this year. There is no response DG could give but support.

And the stage is set for if RR is fired. DG has done a good job in that regard

Gettleman has done a good job setting the stage for the future for whoever the coach is.  That it what a GM does.  He comes from the Giants and watched what happened to Coughlin.  He won't be in a hurry to get rid of anyone and I suspect he will get quite a bit to say about whether he stays or goes.  Richardson didn't have a GM when he was deciding to keep Rivera last time.  I am sure Accorsi had quite a bit to say about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Accorsi asked Gettleman who was his choice for GM about Rivera when the process was going on.

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Gettleman has done a good job setting the stage for the future for whoever the coach is. That it what a GM does. He comes from the Giants and watched what happened to Coughlin. He won't be in a hurry to get rid of anyone and I suspect he will get quite a bit to say about whether he stays or goes. Richardson didn't have a GM when he was deciding to keep Rivera last time. I am sure Accorsi had quite a bit to say about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Accorsi asked Gettleman who was his choice for GM about Rivera when the process was going on.

Yeah, Jerry Richardson makes that call.....and will after this year.

Jerry could of easily waited and was criticized for not allowing his GM to make the standard call on the coach. It was not hat there just wasn't a GM around to make the call on him....Jerry orchestrated it that way.

None of this is new....Jerry dictated to Hurney as well.

Jerry isn't hands off.

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I was reading an article last season about some of the greatest coaches who struggled during their first season or two. I believe even belicheck was one of them.

This year is the true judgment year. Did he learn from his past mistakes? Or will he continue to look lost at times and potentially cost the team a few wins?

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I was reading an article last season about some of the greatest coaches who struggled during their first season or two. I believe even belicheck was one of them.

This year is the true judgment year. Did he learn from his past mistakes? Or will he continue to look lost at times and potentially cost the team a few wins?

Bill Belichick was a boob at this point in his career....

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I'll take a 1 point win. This is a team in the top 5 of power rankings and I have seen them ranked #1.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000214575/article/power-rankings-seattle-seahawks-leapfrog-san-francisco-49ers

1-0 would be a huge start. Could be the game of the year for us.

Yep, could be a kick start like the charger game the 12- 4 year. On paper we seemed outmatched but it turned out to be the beginning of and awesome year (at least the regular season).

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