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Cam or Eli ?

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By carolinarolls,
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Cam hasn't been consistent enough to warrant the benefit of the doubt, which is why he has become under question from more and more fans/outlets.

 

There is another trend that Cam has been tied to that is worth paying attention to.

Who was the OC when DA had his best year(s)?

Who was the OC when Cam had the best rookie year ever?

Who the fug was Hoyer before Chud took over?

 

QBs tend to look good under a certain former scapegoat.

 

 

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Thats just not the truth...at all

 

That does have some merit to it...just stop already..it's always the same 3 people coming in if anything is said that can be remotely construed as negative towards Cam.

 

 

Cam doesn't use his legs nearly as much as he used to and the coaches are likely to blame for it...that part has hurt his game.

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That does have some merit to it...just stop already..it's always the same 3 people coming in if anything is said that can be remotely construed as negative towards Cam.

 

 

Cam doesn't use his legs nearly as much as he used to and the coaches are likely to blame for it...that part has hurt his game.

To say that he has regressed as a player is just ignorance. The team around him has slowly gotten worst thats the difference.

 

Is our offensive line better or worse than 2011?

Is our WR corps bettter or worse than 2011? Younger Steve Smith, Two te sets with Shockey

Is our OC better or worse?

 

All of those things affect the qb and all of those things have gotten worse since 2011.

 

So no Cam Newton hasn't regressed. Cam Newton is a better passer than he was in 2011. Do you say he has regressed because he isn't running wild all over the field? NEWS FLASH what qb is this year? Defenses have adjusted.

 

It's easy to look at a player and try to say stupid poo like "Cam has regressed" without pointing out that everything around him has gotten worse.

 

 

People wonder why I'm not hard on Cam? Because I don't believe he has been given the tools to be a successful qb. Once I see that change I'll be harder on Cam than anybody else. A lot of people don't realize that I didn't even want Cam on this team, I thought he was a gimmick qb who couldn't hit the side of the barn. Once he became a Panther I supported him and rooted for him and grew to love him. He changed the opinions I had about him. The guy I saw in 2011 I thought would become the greatest player to ever play this game. That was no fluke season, Cam is the real deal he just can't get it done alone.

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To say that he has regressed as a player is just ignorance. The team around him has slowly gotten worst thats the difference.

 

Is our offensive line better or worse than 2011?

Is our WR corps bettter or worse than 2011? Younger Steve Smith, Two te sets with Shockey

Is our OC better or worse?

 

All of those things affect the qb and all of those things have gotten worse since 2011.

 

So no Cam Newton hasn't regressed. Cam Newton is a better passer than he was in 2011. Do you say he has regressed because he isn't running wild all over the field? NEWS FLASH what qb is this year? Defenses have adjusted.

 

It's easy to look at a player and try to say stupid poo like "Cam has regressed" without pointing out that everything around him has gotten worse.

 

 

People wonder why I'm not hard on Cam? Because I don't believe he has been given the tools to be a successful qb. Once I see that change I'll be harder on Cam than anybody else. A lot of people don't realize that I didn't even want Cam on this team, I thought he was a gimmick qb who couldn't hit the side of the barn. Once he became a Panther I supported him and rooted for him and grew to love him. He changed the opinions I had about him. The guy I saw in 2011 I thought would become the greatest player to ever play this game. That was no fluke season, Cam is the real deal he just can't get it done alone.

 

Vick is in the top 15 rushing yards...Pryor is top 25....so clearly better than a few starting RBs....

 

The sad argument "defenses have adjusted" has never worked against Vick as a rusher but you are going to allow that to work against Cam? Sounds like a far cry from someone who could be the best player ever.

 

I guess its his turn to adjust or maybe you are just making a lame argument for a player who is just above average or average? If I told you Alex Smith would be out rushing Cam to this point before the season started you'd think I was crazy.

 

Cam is also not better as a passer...not even close. At best he is the same passer as he was when he entered the league.

He still struggles to throw a proper screen pass for example...He's tossing it at  57.5% this year...down from 60% year 1 and was sub 60 last year as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Vick is in the top 15 rushing yards...Pryor is top 25....so clearly better than a few starting RBs....

 

The sad argument "defenses have adjusted" has never worked against Vick as a rusher but you are going to allow that to work against Cam? Sounds like a far cry from someone who could be the best player ever.

 

I guess its his turn to adjust or maybe you are just making a lame argument for a player who is just above average or average? If I told you Alex Smith would be out rushing Cam to this point before the season started you'd think I was crazy.

 

Cam is also not better as a passer...not even close. At best he is the same passer as he was when he entered the league.

He still struggles to throw a proper screen pass for example...He's tossing it at  57.5% this year...down from 60% year 1 and was sub 60 last year as well.

Drops factor into that percentage don't forget that.

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