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Difference this year is there's not a Chris gamble that freed up a lot of space in move. The highest cap mover the year is CJ restructuring salary to bonus for a cap savings of about 5M. The other is Godfrey with a June 1 which also makes around 5M. After those 2, most moves gain us below 2M each (Edwards and Blackburn are the highest). No one else has a high salary that we can move into bonus money (exce

 

Gamble didn't do us any favors IIRC.  He either retired after we cut him or Retired instead of letting us cut him.  One of those would have saved us a lot of money.  I can't remember the specifics of that deal.

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Difference this year is there's not a Chris gamble that freed up a lot of space in move. The highest cap mover the year is CJ restructuring salary to bonus for a cap savings of about 5M. The other is Godfrey with a June 1 which also makes around 5M. After those 2, most moves gain us below 2M each (Edwards and Blackburn are the highest). No one else has a high salary that we can move into bonus money (exce

the difference is that we don't have nearly as much work to be done to get in good cap shape.

i think you and others worrying have already forgotten just how bad a shape this team was in when gettleman got here. just over a year ago he walked into a brand new position with a brand new team that was $16mil over the cap. he took that miserable situation and didn't get us just barely over the cap, but well enough over that he could put together a team that won 12 games and still have enough cap space to roll $6mil over or something like that?

either you think that was a fluke or you think that this is a man that knows how to handle a franchise the right way. one thing i don't think you can say is that our cap situation is anywhere near as bad as last year's. you can cherry pick a detail or two that might be comparable, but when you honestly look at just how bad the situation was and how handcuffed we were with bad contracts and the talent that needed to be brought in compared to this year....man, we are in so much better shape than last year it's not even funny. and we are in this shaoe because of what an inexperienced GM with a brand new team did who now has a year under his belt knowing the job and the team.

sorry, but gettleman deserves a lot more faith than what this thread is giving him because if what he's done so far.

i don't know how he'll do it, but i didn't know how he was going to do it last year and I'm still not sure how he did it, but i don't have to because i know he had less space to work with last year with more work to do and got this team in great shape. he can do it again.

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Tavarres King combine results

40 YARD DASH: 4.47 SEC

BENCH PRESS: 11 REPS

VERTICAL JUMP: 36.5 INCH

BROAD JUMP: 123.0 INCH

3 CONE DRILL: 6.91 SEC

20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.33 SEC

Marvin McNutt Combine results

40 YARD DASH: 4.54 SEC

VERTICAL JUMP: 37.0 INCH

BROAD JUMP: 122.0 INCH

3 CONE DRILL: 7.15 SEC

20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.07 SEC

60 YARD SHUTTLE: 11.62 SEC

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OT Andrew McDonald

Dates: 03/05/12

Height: 6055

Weight: 316

40 Yrd Dash: 5.25

20 Yrd Dash: 3.00

10 Yrd Dash: 1.81 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 23

Vertical Jump: 28 1/2

Broad Jump: 08'09"

20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.80

3-Cone Drill: 7.88

OT Michael Jasper

Dates: 03/21/11

Height: 6041

Weight: 394

40 Yrd Dash: 5.53

20 Yrd Dash: 3.14

10 Yrd Dash: 1.84 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 33

Vertical Jump: 28

Broad Jump: 09'00"

20 Yrd Shuttle: 5.08

3-Cone Drill: 8.44

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OG Travis Bond

COMBINE RESULTS

40 YARD DASH: 5.27 SEC

BENCH PRESS: 22 REPS

VERTICAL JUMP: 22.5 INCH

BROAD JUMP: 98.0 INCH

3 CONE DRILL: 7.85 SEC

20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.96 SEC

OG Oscar Johnson

40 Yard Dash: *5.49 seconds

20 Yard Dash: (N/A) seconds

10 Yard Dash: (N/A) seconds

Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)

Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50)

Vertical Leap: 22.0 inches

Broad Jump: 88 inches

20 Yd Shuttle: 5.06 seconds

Three Cone: 8.06 seconds

60 Yd Shuttle: (N/A) seconds

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I think only Gano, Mitchell and Hardy will get new contracts from that group of 21. Godfrey will be cut and Mitchell will hopefully sign at a reasonable offer. Godfrey was slated to make near 6 mil and I think That's enough to get Mitchell and Gano with a decent chunk of change left over for draft picks.

As I posted above, there is some decent talent on the reserve squad and that money I think is already on the books, so we are going to see some promotions from within the organization. Especially at WR, OL and in the secondary.

The draft picks combine are gonna cost about 4.5 mil and restructuring can free that up.

So really, we could still be looking at 15 mil+ to use on resigning any other FA Gettleman wants, we just have to hope and pray that some of the young guys on the practice squad are ready to produce and it appears that we have some intriguing talent there.

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Just to sign the team's key free agents and draft picks (not counting adding anyone to the mix) it would cost roughly 35-40 million.

If you just use what they made last season, it would cost 30 million to sign the players and the draft picks.

I'm not sure why people think comparing last seasons plan to this offseason is in any way the same?, yes he basically had a $30 mil turn around from over to under the cap and signed some key free agents, the difference is the players to vastly restructure aren't there now, the room we had to manoeuvre last year isn't there this year, and we have more free agents some of which we would like to bring back plus tie up cam and hardy, if cutting Steve smith with little or no gain in cap room is an option (via media sources) then things aren't as rosy as some of you would believe, this isn't madden where you just backload money to free up cap space, I see CJ, Olsen only for an extension, and possibly a few other guys restructuring to give us any sort of positive effect, there just isn't the room to do too much.

The guys on the practice squad who knows? not many if any have even played in the league or pre season so it's a risk to expect to much from them, there just too many guys on the roster vastly overpayed, CJ, Olsen, Smitty, Godfrey, I expect a ravens style season last year, when they had to let key veterans go and are starting to rebuild again, any kind of winning season would be success with the little room to improve that's just being realistic.

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Gamble didn't do us any favors IIRC.  He either retired after we cut him or Retired instead of letting us cut him.  One of those would have saved us a lot of money.  I can't remember the specifics of that deal.

 

Gamble was a straight cut that gained us $7.9M without pushing any dead money into the future. All cap moves this year either push salary to bonus money or small cuts that gain us 1-1.5M (Edwards and Blackburn). Other than those, you can make cap with Godfrey as a June 1 cut, but that pushes 2/3's of his dead money into next year

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the difference is that we don't have nearly as much work to be done to get in good cap shape.

i think you and others worrying have already forgotten just how bad a shape this team was in when gettleman got here. just over a year ago he walked into a brand new position with a brand new team that was $16mil over the cap. he took that miserable situation and didn't get us just barely over the cap, but well enough over that he could put together a team that won 12 games and still have enough cap space to roll $6mil over or something like that?

either you think that was a fluke or you think that this is a man that knows how to handle a franchise the right way. one thing i don't think you can say is that our cap situation is anywhere near as bad as last year's. you can cherry pick a detail or two that might be comparable, but when you honestly look at just how bad the situation was and how handcuffed we were with bad contracts and the talent that needed to be brought in compared to this year....man, we are in so much better shape than last year it's not even funny. and we are in this shaoe because of what an inexperienced GM with a brand new team did who now has a year under his belt knowing the job and the team.

sorry, but gettleman deserves a lot more faith than what this thread is giving him because if what he's done so far.

i don't know how he'll do it, but i didn't know how he was going to do it last year and I'm still not sure how he did it, but i don't have to because i know he had less space to work with last year with more work to do and got this team in great shape. he can do it again.

 

I'm a big fan of Papa Getts. But I am only reiterating his message "we are going to be cap challenged until 2016"

 

He was able to make a big cap swing last year because there were a lot of contracts to do it with. All I have said is there aren't as many of those opportunities again this year to go from ~16 over to ~13 under the cap. There's no $30M new cap space coming this year; that's just fact and that's all I was pointing out. 

 

I'm going on to say he'll move CJ money into the future, he just did so with TD.. he might do it with Kalil (even less likely is Olsen). After that it's a "take a cut or walk" with Smitty and Godfrey. Also, Blackburn and Edwards could get released for a small chunk of cap to get added. Outside of that, I don't see what moves he has unless something crazy happens with a JStew redo (but Stew has 0 reasons to do so, he has all the leverage)

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