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The New York Jets QB Situation

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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He took an offense with damn near zero talent at the receiving positions, won the division and won in the playoffs.

It's not 8-8 with 12 TD's and 21 INT's, but impressive nonetheless.

The nature of the sport, everyone get to see what they wanna see. At the end everyone's happy. I'm sure if you wanted to you could argue that peyton had no receivers as well and be content with that thought. Stay happy, playa!
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Absolutely @Jackofalltrades.

Brady was flat out impressive with the lack of talent.  I saw alot of their games (sunday ticket) and those receivers flat out could not ball.  Funny that Lafell is an upgrade over all his guys from last year.

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Even in Vick's prime, his passing stats couldn't matchup with Jake Delhomme. Now he's older and can't move like he used to and so he has to rely more on his passing. Not to mention he can't even stay healthy. Jets QB situation didn't get that much better.

 

It will if Smith gets better, along with the Jets OC. 

 

Smith was much maligned last year. However, he was a rookie QB who didn't have much support, so he basically was left hung out to dry. 

 

People, like to compare YOUNG QB's lately. But Kaep, RG3 and Wilson all had great running games they could rely on (and offenses tailored to them); hiding many of their flaws in the passing game. 

 

Granted, Geno's not Cam, Luck, or even Tannehill. Those guys can look good or decent, basically on their own. However, he's better than many give him credit for. And he's certainly someone they can hope for in the future. 

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It will if Smith gets better, along with the Jets OC.

Smith was much maligned last year. However, he was a rookie QB who didn't have much support, so he basically was left hung out to dry.

People, like to compare QB's. But Kaep, RG3 and Wilson all had great running games they could rely on; hiding many of their flaws in the passing game.

Granted, Geno's not Cam, Luck, or even Tannehill. Those guys can look good or decent, basically on their own. However, he's better than many give him credit for. And he's certainly someone they can hope for in the future.

Ummm, Jets had the 6th ranked running game last year and had a better YPC than we did.

He had the 11th ranked defense behind him too.

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Ummm, Jets had the 6th ranked running game last year and had a better YPC than we did.

He had the 11th ranked defense behind him too.

 

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. And I did add to my post. 

 

Kaep, Wilson, and RG3, all had offenses tailored to hide their deficiencies, along with their strong running games. 

 

And say what you want about the Jets running game; it just didn't look that good to me. 

 

Take the Panthers high ranked running game. It's a mirage. Cause every one knows, that the Panthers running game was very inconsistent last year, and Cam couldn't rely on them to fool the defense for deep throws. It was all on Cam it seemed. 

 

So you can't always go by statistics. 

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Ummm, Jets had the 6th ranked running game last year and had a better YPC than we did.

He had the 11th ranked defense behind him too.

 

There was a time when you looked for a rookie QB to show you glimpses... and I think that is what Smith did.

 

Do I think he's going to be a top QB in this league?  Probably not.

 

But he could turn out to be a solid starter with the right pieces and development time.  I dunno if that'll happen, but I think it's too early to claim he's washed up.

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I never said or implied he was washed up. Simply stated he has a lot of work to do.

 

ahh okay.  then we're in agreement.  this thread seemed to imply that he was based on the idea that there's a major shitfest here.

 

I don't see bringing in Vick as that bad.  He's a veteran presence, he may help Geno's development by guiding him and helping him see the field how he used to, etc.  Vick is not the player he once was, even he knows that... never know what wisdom he may have gained.

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