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Cyrus Kouandjio revisted


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The man can play Tackle and will be drafted as a Tackle.

If you watched him at Notre Dame and the Senior Bowl, you would know.

There are a lot if guys who play tackle in college and have to love to guard in the nfl.

Must analysts have him as a guard....but I forgot that chuck knows more about positional evaluation than the experts.

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There are a lot if guys who play tackle in college and have to love to guard in the nfl.

Must analysts have him as a guard

Zack Martin is like Jordan Gross when he came out of Utah. Awesome OT prospect in a guard's body. compare the measurables:

6-5 / 300 - J Gross - 33 1/4" arm length

6-4 / 308 - Z Martin - 32 7/8" arms

6-4 / 302 - J Bitonio - 33 7/8" arms

6-4 / 307 - Su'a-Filo - 33 3/8" arms

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6-7 / 322 - Kouandjio - 35 5/8" arms

6-6 / 314 - Moses - 35 3/8" arms

6-6 / 311 - JaWuan James - 35" arms

6-6 / 336 - Antonio Richardson - 35" arms

6-6 / 309 - Jack Mewhort - 34" arms

Brent Sobleski of USA Today: "At 6-4 and 308 pounds and 32 7/8-inch arms, Martin is built like a guard."

Todd mcShay wrote this about a prospect in a previous draft:

"has unusually short arms (32 inches) for his size, a red flag for NFL scouts. Why? Tackles must keep separation versus opposing defensive ends, and having short arms makes the job that much harder. ... Comparison: Jordan Gross, Panthers Some teams worried about his 33-inch arms, but the Panthers took him eighth in 2003 and it's obvious they made the right call."

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the position has evolved, gross was 12 years ago. he spent enough time and learn tricks to over come "short" arms. draft for the future, if not teams would still target 250 LB OLmen with 32in arms. i just want the cryus to be at 28th for a option standpoint.   

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the position has evolved, gross was 12 years ago. he spent enough time and learn tricks to over come "short" arms. draft for the future, if not teams would still target 250 LB OLmen with 32in arms. i just want the cryus to be at 28th for a option standpoint.

Moses or Cyrus if you had to pick?

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I'm not worried about the knee. I'd be worried if they made him go back to Indy for another medical evaluation but they didn't. Which leads me to believe the rumors of teams failing him were blown up because saban and his agent both came back saying every doctor their said they didn't.

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I'm not worried about the knee. I'd be worried if they made him go back to Indy for another medical evaluation but they didn't. Which leads me to believe the rumors of teams failing him were blown up because saban and his agent both came back saying every doctor their said they didn't.

I am always worried about a knee especially with the big guys but I do not feel it should be a show stopper with Cyrus.  I worry more about his mental toughness and desire to compete.Does he have the ability? Hell yea he does but it takes more than that to compete in the NFL. I am sure the staff will vet those concerns.  

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Late to the party here but had to watch the film on him over at www.draftbreakdown.com before I could chime in with an opinion. Been looking at several Tackles and I'd be on board with taking him but I'm doubting he's even there at 28 now. Morgan Moses seems to be a hot name on this board here lately and I have to think we could find better value at WR over him with our first.

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