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McNabb weighs in on our lack of a threat at WR (via D. Newton)


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Saddest part of this offseason for me: RGKnee gets a big time WR to throw to, and Cam gets Cotchery.

Let that sink in for a minute...

He already had garcon who led the league in catches a young promising te and a 1600 yard back in morris give cam just 1 of those guys and id be happy
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Because history tells us they wont be we'll have toget really lucky for one of those guys to pan out

History tells us that a 35 year old receiver won't do poo. History tells us LaFell will never amount to poo. History tells us Ginn is a bust that got overpaid by a shortsighted team. History also told us that Mike Mitchell was a personal foul machine and a wtf were they thinking type signing. Our receivers were known garbage. I'd rather see what we have and maybe they'll be garbage than to trot out the same garbage that isn't magically going to get better.

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Why are you so sure they won't be better out of curiosity?

where did you see me how an opinion either way. But if I was to take a logical guess w/ these being a couple of 3rd tier guys who barely dis anything for their previous teams, I would say they would be either the same or worst. But like I've said before it all comes down to Cam. He currently doesn't have any chemistry w/ anyone but Olsen & getting it w/ the others will be delayed due to the surgery. what reason do I have to believe they will be able to make an immediate impact that will be an upgrade from last yr?
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where did you see me how an opinion either way? But if I was to take a logical guess w/ these being a couple of 3rd tier guys who barely dis anything for their previous teams, I would say they would be either the same or worst. But like I've said before it all comes down to Cam. He currently doesn't have any chemistry w/ anyone but Olsen & getting it w/ the others will be delayed due to the surgery. what reason do I have to believe they will be able to make an immediate impact that will be an upgrade from last yr?

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History tells us that a 35 year old receiver won't do poo. History tells us LaFell will never amount to poo. History tells us Ginn is a bust that got overpaid by a shortsighted team. History also told us that Mike Mitchell was a personal foul machine and a wtf were they thinking type signing. Our receivers were known garbage. I'd rather see what we have and maybe they'll be garbage than to trot out the same garbage that isn't magically going to get better.

Sometimes it takes a change of scenery for some players to finally make a splash such as ginn and mike mitchell both were high draft picks so obviously the talent was there ginn actually looked like a legit wr last season king is a 5th round draft pick and mcnutt is a undfa iirc so yes history says that late round draft guys rarely make an impact and I mean rarely. They do pan out but not as often as some people think
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Sometimes it takes a change of scenery for some players to finally make a splash such as ginn and mike mitchell both were high draft picks so obviously the talent was there ginn actually looked like a legit wr last season king is a 5th round draft pick and mcnutt is a undfa iirc so yes history says that late round draft guys rarely make an impact and I mean rarely. They do pan out but not as often as some people think

The point in trying to make is this.

Our receivers last year were poo. Steve Smith as much as it pains me to say isn't Steve Smith anymore. Hell, by his own admission he's not a #1 anymore. He's not a guy you need to double cover because he can burn you over the top and he's not a guy you need to gameplan around anymore. Another year on his body isn't going to make that better all of a sudden. LaFell will be entering year five and hasn't done anything at this point to warrant any kind of support for him staying. Tedd Ginn is fast but drops a lot. He's at least decent and I wish he stayed, but not for a fraction of what he ended up getting.

So here we are with a bunch of jags for receivers, and yet people are going crazy because we let then go and didn't bring anyone in. The offseason isn't over yet, and there is no doubt in my mind that our receiving corps can be better by the time the season starts.

Could our receivers be worse than last year? Yes, absolutely.

But they could also be a lot better. And the guys we let go weren't going to just get better magically.

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Sometimes it takes a change of scenery for some players to finally make a splash such as ginn and mike mitchell both were high draft picks so obviously the talent was there ginn actually looked like a legit wr last season king is a 5th round draft pick and mcnutt is a undfa iirc so yes history says that late round draft guys rarely make an impact and I mean rarely. They do pan out but not as often as some people think

 

Ginn didn't make a splash last year. He put up nearly identical stats to an undrafted FA coming off an ACL tear (Marlon Brown).  The fact that a team screwed up and drafted him in the top 10 means nothing 7 years later.  People here SEVERELY overrate guys like Ginn and Lafell, they're easily and immediately replaceable.  The difference between Ginn and Lafell and the new guys is like Montsta said, the new guys have a CHANCE to be better whereas we all know what the old guys can do.

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