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AceBoogie Veteran

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No because Cam is worth 100 million. He's worth more than that to this franchise. We are complaining about shelling out 100s of millions on guys who aren't worth that. Why is that hard to understand? If Williams and Stewart were playing like AP and Shady you wouldn't hear a peep out of us.

Cam will never be worth 100 million if his best receiving target is Jerricho Cotchery, or even a 5'9 35 year old Steve Smith. You have to get him some weapons and it needs to be done in this draft. No excuses

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watch avant be a 65,000$ mentor to the young WRs, then get cut before the season starts. then resigned at some point, thus not fully guaranteeing his contract.

panthers are focusing are GREAT clubhouse WRs that dont have the drops..... i wonder why??

Disagree. See 2013 Hixon. Gman isn't cutting any of these guys.
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Cam will never be worth 100 million if his best receiving target is Jerricho Cotchery, or even a 5'9 35 year old Steve Smith. You have to get him some weapons and it needs to be done in this draft. No excuses

 

Contract negotiations aren't based purely off statistics.  Even if they were, they'd use advanced metrics and not cookie cutter fantasy football stats.

 

Can you explain Eli Manning getting the largest contract in NFL history when he didn't have great targets, wasn't winning, and didn't have great statistics?

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Disagree. See 2013 Hixon. Gman isn't cutting any of these guys.

He cut Drayton Florence.

And if Gettis Adams or Edwards had not gotten hurt or showed more in pre season. I don't think Hicks would have been here.

I don't think this staff has a problem cutting players they just signed if it isn't working out or a young player is out performing them.

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Contract negotiations aren't based purely off statistics. Even if they were, they'd use advanced metrics and not cookie cutter fantasy football stats.

Can you explain Eli Manning getting the largest contract in NFL history when he didn't have great targets, wasn't winning, and didn't have great statistics?

Yea, bad decision making. He's not worth it

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Cam will never be worth 100 million if his best receiving target is Jerricho Cotchery, or even a 5'9 35 year old Steve Smith. You have to get him some weapons and it needs to be done in this draft. No excuses

Lol what?

Cam would/can be worth 100mil because he makes everyone around him better and can do more with less.

Like Flacco, he has weapons but is he worth 100 mil? Is Cutler worth 100mil? Andy Dalton?

Does Cam need better players around him? Yes, not just him but the Panthers do but to say he won't be worth x$ because of what he has around him only, is silly.

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Lol what?

Cam would/can be worth 100mil because he makes everyone around him better and can do more with less.

Like Flacco, he has weapons but is he worth 100 mil? Is Cutler worth 100mil? Andy Dalton?

Does Cam need better players around him? Yes, not just him but the Panthers do but to say he won't be worth x$ because of what he has around him only, is silly.

His production would not equate to 100 million...Give Cam Cutler's targets and we'd win a Super Bowl.

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His production would not equate to 100 million...Give Cam Cutler's targets and we'd win a Super Bowl.

He's produced just fine with average receiving corp at best already.

And again you missed my point. Stafford has thrown for crazy yards and TDs but is he worth 100 mil? No.

It's more than just production when you are talking that kind of money.

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When did I say you should ignore the defensive side of the ball? You guys think I'm the biggest WR supporter on the forum, but I'm firmly against double dipping at any position including WR. It's absolutely about maximizing your investment, let's not forget this is a business. Paying a game manager 100 million dollars is bad business and will handicap this team. You think we're cap strapped now, imagine this team with Cam make 20 million a year and not 5. You guys would be calling for his head with every little mistake.

Cam Newton is never a game manager. The difference between a playmaker and game manager isn't just defined in how many passing attempts a guy has.

Cam will never be a game manager. He is a playmaker

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We've rented a 2nd veteran, proven receiver. That beats the ? guys we had last year in Ginn and Hixon in my book. Underwood's a ?, but 2 quality possession guys, along with Olsen, puts us in better shape than last year, and you shouldn't count on the draft to fill a bare WR cupboard. Gman has done a good FA job at this position if you ask me.

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Cam Newton is never a game manager. The difference between a playmaker and game manager isn't just defined in how many passing attempts a guy has.

Cam will never be a game manager. He is a playmaker

He's a playmaker that we treat like a game manager.

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He's a playmaker that we treat like a game manager.

A guy averaging @4,000 total yards and 30+ TDs over his first 3 years is not being treated as a game manager.

We use Cam in a variety of different ways including designed QB runs and read option plays to take advantage of his unique skill set.

Just because he doesn't always throw the ball 35 times doesnt mean he is being used as a game manager

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A guy averaging @4,000 total yards and 30+ TDs over his first 3 years is not being treated as a game manager.

We use Cam in a variety of different ways including designed QB runs and read option plays to take advantage of his unique skill set.

Just because he doesn't always throw the ball 35 times doesnt mean he is being used as a game manager

He was seen as more of a game managers last year. Because the Defense was seen as the reason we won games.

Even thoe he had to carry this offense with perfect throws and scrambling magic in a lot of games.

His Wr Yac yards and Oline protection issues really were the problem why his numbers weren't as good as they should have been.

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people saying cam doesn't need weapons baffle me, I know cam can play at a high level without top wrs but you want to maximize Cam's full potential.

 

 

having playmakers around him also will make his job easier, he shouldn't have to go in every game playing perfect

 

 

i like the signings these guys are more sure handed then lafell and ginn, but that's all i can say right now

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