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Likely is a variable I can’t calculate, but if it wasn’t for our up down up down fate this year telling me we will win 2 more I would say it is over. 7-10.

I went coach on the basis of a new HC moving on from Bryce and Evero. If you just move on from Bryce, you may end up with a bad HC and bad DC. Which, could also have bad results in any of these changes. I just like the idea of HC because it might net us all three changes.

They do this late slide poo on purpose. They're trying to bait a flag like a basketball player flopping or doing the whole "drive and flail" thing. Shough got hit harder and he did more to sell it so he got the flag. The NFL should try to address it. Allow QBs to slide to protect themselves but you can't let them flirt with the fine line of trying to get every inch they can and then slide at the last second with the defender already committed to the hit and then put the onus on the defender to avoid it.

Bryce has to go. His body of work doesn’t come close to being enough, and his ceiling doesn’t cancel out his floor which is below NFL starting QB level. I don’t need to even consider the other people with him in the conversation. They are all a distant second.

Let me check the actual sack percentages on that.

A ton of pressure on a d with, let’s face it, not a lot of playmakers.

Perplexingly, In Panthers Losses: 5.1 Penalties for 43.6 Yards In Panthers Wins: 6.6 Penalties for 51.4 Yards

This a soccer picture, but a slide executed correctly. Bryce looking like he slipped on a patch of ice.

Can't get around the reality that the Saints are giving up an average of 24ppg and we only got to 17. Have an average offensive game against them and we win. It's just hard to win games in the modern NFL when you score under 20 points. It puts a ton of pressure on your D and when you're feeling that pressure it's only natural you're probably gonna be more aggressive and more at risk of committing penalties.

Bullshit 190

I think some of it is just that those are the games we've thrown the ball more. It's hard to get sacked much when you're trying to limit your passing attempts to around 20ish while you lean on the run. Overall, our sack percentage is 30th in the league. The overall pass protection has been very good.

Why’s it odd throw the ball more you’re going to get sacked more

Who gives a crap at this point? Even if we make the playoffs, and that’s a big if, we are a one and done team. This team has no consistency and it shows week in and week out. We have a crappy HC and staff and a very mediocre QB. That’s a recipe for disaster.

I wouldn't argue a lot with that except to say the breakdowns on 3rd and 14 and stuff like that, repeatedly, are right there too. I think on our last, or maybe next to last possession the radio guys said it was our 6th of the game. 6 offensive possessions isn’t much to work with.

Most likely Panthers things to happen would be lose close to the bucs on Sunday then beat the Seahawks and bucs lose to the dolphins and then the Panthers get completely destroyed week 18

you know why. our offense is anemic at best. when your gameplan is to limit your own qbs involvement in the gameplan, you are screwed. Attacking the middle of the field requires being able to see over the line. Bryces inability to attack that level of the defense makes it hard to comeback or score quickly. Look at what tyler did to us at the end of the game. Does anyone here think that bryce could make those throws consistently? i dont. he doesnt have the arm strength or vision. he can throw moonballs to the outside and float them to the intermediate area.

Yeah it wasn’t an optimistic atmosphere during those long NO marches. Luke is really good at analysis. Lightning fast with it.

Yeah but that isn't a realistic scenario to even hope for, unfortunately.

I honestly hate it. It puts the defender in a terrible spot, especially that Shough slide yesterday. Like Ransom was saying, they were at the very fringe of FG range where every yard matters and he's trying to stop the runner for as little yardage as possible. Completely understandable and I can't really blame him for the play. Just a shitty no win situation for him and Shough sold the call with his hilarious overacting. It is what it is. I'd like to see the protection rule changed to some type of halo rule like on punt catches. Yeah, it adds another level of potential controversy to officiating but this bullshit of running as far as you possibly can and then sliding as a defender has already committed to the tackle is just that, it's bullshit. If you're protecting yourself, protect yourself. If you're trying to get every yard you can then get hit. fug having the best of both.

David Tepper is my choice. It all starts and ends with that asshole. But since you won't let me use him I will choose Canales. He sucks almost as bad as Evero but Evero is out the door when the season is over.

https://x.com/josephperson/status/2000629821802750196 We've been had. And it's clear Dave doesn't trust him

You know, oddly, in games he has been sacked the most this season, he has also been the most productive.

So many people that hate bryce no matter what dont understand how progressions work. He was clearly reading right to left. The bull rush got to him before he would have ever had time to get to the dowdle read.

I don't "blame" Bryce for that play. Icky got whooped. It is what it is. But Bryce has a bad habit of always backpedaling under pressure and rarely ever stepping up in the pocket and that dates back to college. Had he stepped up there were options. That's all. The real problem is that we basically all knew we were cooked after that play. 2nd and 19 with Bryce at QB is basically the end of the drive. We all kinda understand that. Sure, there been this or that rare occurrence where we've overcome it but by and large that's almost always a drive killer for us. That's just Bryce at QB. Your offense is handcuffed and the margin for error is practically nonexistent. He was sacked on time all game and that basically meant game over.

Yeah and somehow when this exact same thing happens to a bigger ticket QB the shoe is on the other foot for the talking heads? I am not buying it. It's all reality TV level horseshit. The rule and they way they call it has been pretty clear for years now. If was a stupid play, without question. And at a critical time. But, it should never have been to that point anyway. In the final 24:54 of gametime following our 3rd quarter TD we accomplished 44 yards of offense in 4 drives. 44. That's the fuging problem, not any individual play.