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3 years. If this contract looks like I think it does and like I posted a few pages back. His dead cap in 2027 will be around 29m. So the Panthers need him to be healthy and playing for three more seasons.
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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
carpanfan96 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yes. Separation statistics count every snap. -
I had no idea he was still coaching. I would've taken Tepper's money and headed off to retirement.
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And he does. Frank Reich sucks!!!
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Frank Reich in his first coaching since the panthers is about to lose to Hawaii
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yes, and teams occasionally cut a player early who has a chance to stick on another team as a courtesy--They should know by now---if they do not, then they might want to rethink their preseason strategy. Of course, now that Practice squads are bigger, maybe they want to interview everyone who they plan to cut to see if they are interested in returning.
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Not going to argue with this brand of logic. Read the thread. The counterargument to your in-depth scouting report is embedded.
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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
ForJimmy replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Check out our boy Coker with the 23 ranking in Overall Ranking! -
Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
ForJimmy replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
PFF had both Coker and XL as middle of the pack. I do think their metric is only looking at caught passes though. Also if you look at the actual rating, Mingo and Chark are in the 20s in 2023 with Coker and XL in the 40s in 2024. Another interesting stat is 24 Mingo stays in the 20s despite changing teams away from Bryce? Shouldn’t he move up quite a bit on a new team where defenses are having to respect the QB? You also left out Diontae Johnson at 37 in 2024. 7 games for us and 5 for other teams with very limited stats (looks like 3 catches total say from us). How could he possibly be at 37 with defenses stacking the box making it impossible to get open? Maybe it’s the actual receivers not getting open and not defenses cheating coverage? -
Surprised we have not cut anyone yet. Some of these guys are no brainers
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I enthusiastically believe we won't lose another game in the next two weeks.
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My honest take on his future is he'll have some cool highlights (maybe even a lot) but in the end he won't be a consistently good player. Of course, his fans will blame that on everyone except him
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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
CRA replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
every route run https://espnanalytics.com/receivers you can sort by open, YAC and catch ratings by next gen. WRs don’t get open and there is no YAC on this team. Some of its players. Some is scheme. Some is Bryce. *YAC sorts pretty similar to OPEN with Coker being the anomaly. Gotta think that one might be skewed with that huge busted coverage play he had which is a massive % of his YAC on the year -
We already have mummies at LB.
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There are not 14 over the age of 32 with questionable knees. He has been one of the most dependable consistent lineman in our history. The concern is if he will he hold up 2 more years with the questionable knees.
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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
frankw replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Welp. Let's just agree that we hope this Panthers team comes out swinging in Jacksonville here in a few weeks. Because if they lay a big egg early to start the season again they deserve any and all criticism. -
Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
jfra78 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Is that seperstion even when the ball isnt thrown their way? -
Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
jb2288 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I didn’t throw anyone under the bus. It’s a fact. it happened. That can be true while also stating I won’t be overreacting about it, as I did. -
Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
carpanfan96 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Even Tmac isn't known for separation. Horn jr or Coker are the two fastest WR probably and one isn't likely to see any time at all and the other is the fourth WR on the depth chart. -
Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
CRA replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
They weren’t getting open. ESPN analytics grades 159 receiving options getting open in 2024 159 - Tremble 148 - Saunders 148 - Moore 126 - Coker 108 - Leggette 92 - Theilen our shining star getting open was AT ranked at number #92 in the NFL -
Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
frankw replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Can't help but notice you made it a point to fully throw our young TE under the bus for the drop but omitted the overthrow for a first down and Bryce panicking and moving himself into a sack in a play that honestly was extremely concerning for a third year QB who made instances like that all too common in the past. And that's not even mentioning a poorly thrown ball (penalty or no penalty) in the vicinity of a WR flanked by three defenders. It was very discouraging.
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