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Coker and Horn Jr. Told everyone they were higher in Horn then it looked. Also said that Thielen was pushing for the trade internally. So he gets what he wants and the Panthers got there 4th plus 5th. lol

They got a good deal being a potential playoff team in need. We basically got a 4th (rest of the picks basically cancel out). That’s not bad for trading a 1 more year player on a not so playoff potential team.

I don't know that the Vikings are a contender. Generally whenever they're expected to be really good, they suck (source: my dad, who's been a Minnesota fan for more than 55 years). Probably just wanted to retire there and give it a shot one more time.

Oof, not a fan. We basically got a 2027 fourth and swapped fifth round picks in different years. Who gaf about the conditional 7th. Just feels like he had more value to us than that even for just one season.

Not terrible if we aren’t eating much of his salary. We turned our 5th into a 4th in 2027 And gained a 2026 6th rounder (a conditional 7th is UDFA territory)

Absolutely. Once Thielen’s agent leaked his desire to go back to Minnesota to Adam Schefter on Monday night the Panthers lost their leverage

is that a reflection on him simply wanting to go home (something he could do in Jan) or him seeing us in the preseason and wanting to play with a contender on his last ride? hmmmmmmmmm.......

I kinda felt like the plan was to bring him back when we were finished making roster moves.

Probably. How many trades have the Panthers won the last five years? One?

I’m fine ride or die. We had Theilen for 2025 and then he’s gone. We get to move up to better picks and the young guys get their opportunity. I do find it laughable that Theilen not being here might stunt Young’s growth. JFC, for all the guys who think Morgan is doing a great job, we’ve give up 2023 pick 9, 2024 pick 1, 2024 pick 32 and 2025 pick 8. If Adam Theilen being gone makes our passing offense go to poo after spending 3 top 10 picks and another 1st rounder, then we best fire the entire coaching and front office and start our rebuild the right way in 2026.

We had 7 receivers, now we have 6. So they wouldnt need to add anyone.

We gave him a raise to talk him out of retirement lol.

I would say perhaps he did make his feelings known.

It’s pretty obvious Thielen forced his way out here guys, no one will come out and say this but that’s what happened

I wish our front office would worry about doing the fans a solid every once in a while. Good for AT but is this the make a wish foundation or a competitive football team?

It's not a true pick swap because the years are different. They are trading lower third of the round picks for top 10 in the round picks, though. I would say they did win this trade.

Getting a 4th round pick for Thielen at this age and salary is pretty good. It'll likely hurt us short term though unfortunately, now I definitely want Renfrow back.

Wow this has been a wild offseason

Morgan went from having leverage to that. Yeah man I gotta think Theilen and his wife pushed hard. I guess that was bullshit about coming back for bryce lol

Only the Panthers are selling before week 1

AT's been a stand-up guy for us. From what I'm seeing it looks like he wanted this to happen to go home to Minnesota. If you count the delayed year, basically we got two fifth round pics this year. But that fourth round pick will come in handy in 27. We did right by him, and got some assets.

It's no bounty but LET COKER COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

What about the salary?

Looks like an elaborate pick swap Basically our 2026 7th round pick became an additional 5th round pick in 2026. And our 2027 5th round pick became an additional 4th rounder. Looks like Morgan caved on the compensation he wanted. I think Theilen must have really wanted to go back home.

From X it said we get 2026 5th and 2027 4th and give up Theilen, 2026 7th and 2027 5th.