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He certainly seemed to have no problem "demonizing" CJ Stroud.

Yeah he ran from that thread immediately. Weak.

Snipped the bulk off just to focus on the finish. The first thing about show him how much it means to us, is the only thing that could possibly work but I don’t have enough faith in him having that kind of empathy. We know the stories about him his brass balls and tearing down his ex bosses house. The shaming, I think would push him to leave.

They need to fire the PFFtards they hired along with the other staff in the offseason. I think real football people could look over their made up numbers online and figure out whats useful and what is just their opinions. I watched enough of the game this week to not care about PFF and their BS.

And again, which current QB prospects really fit that criteria? I'd love for there to be a QB worth taking, but I'm just not seeing it right now.

Respectfully, this guy is gonna do next to nothing

I really wonder if he gave them an easy week because of how “good” they looked against Atlanta. He def looks like the guy who searches for his own name on Google.

I'm not misrepresenting anything. You just seem to have a pretty stunning lack of self awareness that you're literally doing the same thing you complain about. I don't "think" that you care about people picking on Bryce you very blatantly obviously DO. Keep slinging those poo reactions buddy. LOL

Are the two things mutually exclusive? Bryce has been bad. Stroud hasn't been much better since his rookie year. Richardson is a bust. The answer to the QB question in 2023, it turns out, was: none of the above.

surely you’re referring to the dolphins defense

Apparently he came in for Walton but then when the back-ups went in he sat? I'm trying to understand how they're visualizing using him, but I haven't figured it out yet. Seems like they're always assuming that there will be an injury so they need to have him available... only to plug in somebody else?

Aren't you the same dude trying to dunk on Stroud in a fuging adam theilen thread?

Yea, I'm going to throw bullshit the same way you and others throw bullshit daily. You still think I care about folks "picking" on Bryce when I've already clarified that it's because when trying to discuss anything not related to Bryce you and others like you come in with a boner to exclusively talk about Bryce. Hell, look at this exchange. Chandler Zavala posted a 0.0 pass block grade and all you can do is try to make it seem like it's a distraction from Bryce. That's a crazy obsession on your end. Seeking entertainment via purposefully misrepresenting somebody on a message board says quite a bit about how well things are going for you on your end. As I'm so affectionately told: I hope things get better for you.

His rookie season bought him forgiveness on my end, but in year three he cannot show regression to that basement-level performance he could barely string together. Yea, things haven't exactly been fair, but very few QBs end up in situations like Mahomes. Hell, even Stroud is struggling this season as the Texans for some reason thought that the best thing to do was detonate their OL. I don't think the team is in a good enough place to drop a rookie QB in. Best case scenario imo, they further build the roster during the offseason and march the team to a top-10 pick behind Bryce in the last year of his deal. If we're picking in the top-10 again, it means Canales isn't the offensive-mind that Tepper thought he was. Grab a reliable vet if there's one available and let the new rookie sit for a year. Last thing I want to do is grab another top QB prospect only to fire the HC after their rookie season. That doesn't exactly go very well for anybody.

What league would those teams play in? Because it isn’t the NFL.

Demonization is an absurd term to apply in this discussion in relation to Bryce Young. Demonization would be how fans still outwardly rooted against Cam Newton even after he looked like a generational talent earned rookie of the year honors and MVP. This is not that. At all. All that is happening currently are people applying expectations of a first overall pick. Even if we lose even if we aren't good show us flashes of what a #1 pick is supposed to do. Elevate YOUR team. And we are not seeing that.

If you were simply posting the tweet or talking about the content of the tweet, sure. But no... you gotta throw in your bullshit and try to make it about your perception people are unfairly picking on Bryce. I just think it's comical that while you constantly bitch about other people derailing conversation you're literally doing the exact same thing to your own thread. I mean, keep it up. It's entertaining. We need entertainment.

Know all those weird pro Bryce twitter accounts just pumping out ai slop? kinda weird they were all registered in September 2022.

Agree. I DESPISE how he handles the preseason

By all means, be critical of Bryce. I don't run into the 10+ threads y'all create after every L to complain about him. I don't understand how you can jump to that conclusion outside of being hurt yourself. Since you still want to try and misrepresent, I'll say it one more time clearly for you and anybody else that just can't stand the idea of looking at the other starters on the field: Bryce hasn't played well and does not look like the answer at QB for the Panthers. No disagreement there. The disagreement has always and will always be over the ridiculous demonization of the player + refusal to acknowledge not only what he has done well (let's not pretend he didn't show that he could develop) but also what needs to improve on the team besides him. Do... do you not understand what derailing a thread is? That tweet you giggled over literally lists PFF stats... in a thread about PFF grades from the game? How is that derailing the thread vs. you carrying on? Good Lord, if only Bryce Young were taller maybe you'd be able to better figure it out.

I haven’t listened to it but if Vrabel didn’t get a different QB for his Panthers squad I can’t agree. But here is the thing with that: if you told Vrabel he was tied to Bryce for two years, he would not accept the job, IMO. He doesn’t have to. Canales was only getting a job as HC if he accepted that condition

So basically Bryce is missing guys left right and center because the OL has injuries. Got it. That's why he played so well in previous week's and this was really his first bad game! Or, is this just 2025 Bryce? It looks a lot like early 2024 Bryce and 2023 Bryce. Maybe late 2024 Bryce was the anomaly.

I’m not suggesting that. i think we’re in Raheem morris bucs territory where he wasn’t fired because they wouldn’t have enough coaches to run practice. but at the end of the year yeah he’s gone bye

Not a lot of room to make it worse though, from where we are. We could go 0-17. What do you think we will do this year? 3 wins? 4? I think I predicted 6 I know that I did last year. Trying to give the benefit of the doubt there but that is wasted on this QB.