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I mean....Bryce has to be a 4.8 40 at best. His mobility is pretty limited FOR a guy of his size, TBH. Russell and Kyler were 4.5-4.6 guys. I also question his field reading abilities. I don't think you accidentally end up with a 60% career completion percentage with an extremely low YPA average. Bryce ain't completely the problem but he is far from NOT being the issue either.

I think sellers is a dude..

I think highly reguarded QBs or prospects in general who fall for character concerns or even maybe injury worrys at a certain point are like value bargain bin sales.. to many examples.. Tunsil and his bong thing.. all pro.. Tavondre sweat the Texas defensive tackle who was a brick wall fell to the second round and his been a stud.. Payton wilson for the love of God we to Wallace over him.. and watching potential top 6 pick will johnson who was projected to us at certain points fall to the second round and we just said ihey rather have nic scorton (made we would have had to give up what a 5 or worse to move up 2-3 spots) is criminal.

I'm worried about next year's QB crop but I'm not in panic mode about it yet. There's still time for some guys to stand out.

Well for me, that's the worst thing. We had an opportunity to bring in Daniel Jones or a Mac Jones (for example), and we didn't even do it. We probably would've fúcked it up, but still. Fitterer is gone. Ron is gone. We need to get to a point where "competition" is more than rhetoric. We need to stop giving vets undue preferential treatment, stop draft position bias, and just play the better players.

Their expectation of wht the offense isnt good is because they dont have good stats. Well duh. They dont have good stats because they arent good. Their analysis lacks analyzing.

Yep Time to cut bait

He might carve out a long career as a backup but not as a top backup. I would bet a lot of money you'll never see Bryce have a game like Mac Jones had on Thursday night. Plenty of guys carve out long careers by being decent enough while being great teammates. I think that's the path Bryce is staring down.

I mean until Thursday when we show the Devils who their daddy is.

My bad

I mean, he really hasn't done all that much to be a distraction. Has he been perfect? No. But he hasn't done much. Really. When I started researching it, I was expecting all this "stuff," but the worse thing that he has done, which is not directly related to football (so not really what we are talking about) is speeding. As far as football-related antics, there's not a whole lot there since he's become a pro. A lot of it is just speculation (like Rex Ryan's recent criticism) that may be based upon something or nothing at all.

the panthers wanted 0 competition for bryce. but at this point would prrfer to see an udfa qb

It would have hurt Bryce’s widdle feelings to bring in competition at QB.

Now this I can argue against.. if we talking backup I think Bryce will have a nice long NFL career... He doesn't make a ton of bad reads.. he is mobile.. I think he can not lose you games if you have the table set for him.. but the ability to make those around him better elevate a bad offense mask bad players like say cam going to the super bowl with Bryon bell and philly brown.. no doesn't have that.

Top 6? I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't think Bryce has the potential to become a top 6 backup.

I liked Sanders field reading abilities in general but his ceiling is fairly low and his shenanigans as a pro are, quite frankly, bizarre. I don't think he is doing himself any favors by being a distraction while also being buried on the depth chart. Don't get me wrong, the media would attempt to make him a distraction regardless but it's not smart to feed into it when you aren't having a role at all. This can also be said of XL, BTW. We are no stranger to this. It's a lot easier to excuse Cam dressing like a deleted scene Harry Potter character at press conferences when he is looking like a man among boys on the football field.

I hear Huddlers throwing things similar about Sanders whenever his name comes up, but to put it bluntly, we don't know that to be true. What we do know is that plenty of Browns fans thought that Sanders had the best camp out of the bunch, notwithstanding not being given the opportunity to play with the ones. What has been reported is that Dillon Gabriel is Stefanski's guy, and Andrew Berry thought that Sanders should be prioritized (even if it meant that he would eventually trade Sanders due to Sanders having more value). The fact that many Browns fans preferred (and prefer now) Sanders, and that there was a split---or difference of opinion between Stefanski and Berry, isn't really up for debate. It's true. What this all means, at the end of the day, is that we don't know how Sanders compares to Hooker or anyone else because he really hasn't had an opportunity to play for whatever reasons.

I don't think with a roster this bad we should be spamming picks at subpar QB's for development purposes. When the roster is a little more fleshed out, I would fully support that. Also, with our persistent evaluation problems, I can only imagine who we would have likely overdrafted in the past few years.

He's talking about this year's draft as in the guys who are currently rookies, not next year's draft.

That is probably true.. but was sanders so weak himself that he wasn't a top 3 round QB? He couldn't be any worse as a prospect as say Desmond ridder or that dude I forget we drafted in the 3rd round and is now playing in the arena league a few years ago.

Agreed. And at some point Dalton won't be Dalton anymore there isn't anything wrong with drafting a young backup.

Maybe, its too early to say but we have to have one. Rolling a poo vet out without someone developing seems like purgatory

It's all bad. He's just the little guy on the top of this wedding cake of misery.

Whatever the Panthers do going forward after this season it better be with a mindset that you always need some level of competition in the QB room. Nobody cares about how much the starting QB likes the second or third string QB's. They aren't here to knit sweaters they're here to play football and compete.

The other option is to be patient and wait and see if a good HC gets canned from his current team. No way Minnesota fires KOC but let's say they have ANOTHER bad season next year. Maybe we could trade for him. I doubt it but at this point I really want someone with a proven track record of success.