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I would strongly disagree on TMac. He actually does have a fairly advanced route tree for a rookie WR. XL seems to think a route tree is something you corner a raccoon up before making him stew.

We would have had to pay Saleh like a top 5 HC to get him to consider coming here.

Welp, at least we're getting the definitive answer on Bryce early this year. Either magically win next week or start warming up Dalton and Hooker.

We seem to have drafted two WRs for specific traits: Catch radius and the ability to go up for a contested ball in the endzone. We somehow missed out on things like route running, situational awareness and speed. XL and T-Mac (do they really deserve nicknames based on output yet?) aren't very good at the route tree yet, they don't seem to know to break the play for opportunities when PeeWee gets pressured and the two of them can be timed using Calendars when they are on the field. It used to be our fastest receiver was an aging white dude who was a UDFA castoff from Minnesota. We replaced him with basically the same white dude, just younger, cast off from the Raiders. Yeah, XL sucks, but the process that chose him and chose a partial clone of him again the next round might be the bigger problem.

I am still flabbergasted so many pushed back on my assertion that this was the second worst roster in Panthers history. Like.....how was it not obvious???

Alright bro. That’s enough

You called it.

meanwhile Robert Salah held the Seahawks to 13 points at their place ::sigh:: Its just comical at this point

I hate running a 34 anyway, but EE has done nothing to inspire any kind of confidence. Paid to upgrade D, particularly the DL and still gave up 200 yards on the ground.

No disagreement and anyone would take Cam over Bryce literally every single time. This offense would be top 10 with Cam at the helm but I doubt we win more than 6 games. That's how bad the defense is

I disagree. We will continue to suck on D after he is gone too.

Make him DC and QB

He didn’t do much better than Bryce statistically

Ejiro Evero’s defense just doesn’t work we will continue to suck on D until he’s gone from Carolina

We have been so bad while thr commentary shines their best light but the product on the field made me laugh when lifting Young up in those games. It was more practice for the other teams or a wake up call to put more effort in.

100%. Cam would be out there dying on his shield to try and counter our dumpster fire defense. You would also see him being a real vocal leader on the sidelines rather than being a room temp cup of expired milk like Bryce typically is.

They got bamboozled by XL last year. This moronic front office/ownership care more about how you interact with them instead of, you know, results on the field

You didn't miss much other than the realization that we are way, WAY closer to another attempted rebuild than we are a turnaround.

That's what I mean. The full effect of what Cam brought in his prime would more often than not at least give you a game worth watching.

Cams rookie year we went 6-10 and this defense is astronomically worse. I do not think Prime Cam could win with this defense

I would agree that dropping even prime Cam on this roster still probably isn't a GOOD team. It's a team that wins some fuging games, however. And probably rarely gets embarrassed.

At this point the crying Jordan meme is the leader of this team.

You can't actually believe that.

More concerned with his table manners than how he would actually translate to the NFL. Don't let these people off the hook either. The hype machine for this kid before the draft was one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

No but you said most of the locker room hadn't won and was used to losing. They were 12-4 2 years prior and 8-8 the season prior to the plug literally intentionally being pulled and we were awful for ONE year. Cam's take was annoying and wrong and Smith was rightfully upset. Hurney was a below average him but he could keep enough talent on a team and add to it to get it right every couple of years. This team is devoid of talent and hitting on a draft picks or two won't save us now. Dropping rookie Cam Newton on to this roster would honestly not look much different than Bryce. We have below average NFL talent because we have well below average NFL talent evaluators.