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I don’t start threads like that. I prefer nuanced debates without blinders, not slme stupid shite about what Vegas thinks , or same old lazy ass and uneducated arguments.

And do you know how many people would still do it again and wouldn't think twice? Thats all there is too it.

That mascot stopped real quick

Complaining about the complainers. Beaten horse meet your horse beater. Tell you what. Start an I love Bryce thread and I won’t say a bad word about him in it. I doubt that would satisfy you but go or it.

Cam needs to knock it off he knows he needs this job

What they did is put Bryce's best games against Stroud's worse games and they are about the same. This says alot about Bryce actually.

Jesus christ give it a rest. Im tired of these cherry picking stats.

That’s it. I mean I do t think he is the future but we are this deep in the hole so we are kind of forced to give him the last ten games to tell us through his play, what he is. I am trying not to become a fan and attached because I don’t see it. And he is.a good guy and has great attitude. if only he had the body and tools for it he might be perfect. But that isn’t the situation and I don’t want to like him and then know I need ro fire him.

Horse beaten to death. Yet when someone starts even one positive thread from other reputable sources about Bryce you lot lose your shite. But you do you…maybe the moderators need to force all Bryce posts into two threads: Bryce is him vs Bryce sucks and everyone can get it out of their system for all eternity

I guess I have to say again what does he have to do with the issues facing us concerning Beyce? Other than nothing. He gets brought up now by butt hurt Bryce supporters who held the grudge for two years and think that somehow we give a poo.

Im just sharing what reputable reporters are saying people see what they want to see but his numbers do not lie the team is winning in spite of him. Winning is good i do not see Young in the Nfl in 10 years and i dont see him being the panthers qb in 2 years until then, i hope for the best with him i want the franchise i support to have a better answer at qb

lol sure, now suddenly nobody cares about Stroud

I Well things can change. He has plenty of help now and this is his shot in my opinion. It won’t get any fairer to him than it is this year. And we are going against the division 5 more times plus some contenders. It is a good test. Kind of have to let it play out. I lnow that personally I need to see something I think is not a blip but is repeatable on a consistent basis against challenging competition. High bar not low bar.

The same people who blasted Darnold for being a gunslinging turnover machine now want us to trade for a gunslinging turnover machine.

This Sunday is going to be very interesting and will answer a lot of questions.

I think if it was strictly Canales’ choice that BY would be gone. Tepper is the wild card because Bryce as his guy. He probably isn’t ready to have that much egg on his face. Dan and Dave need to have a sit down with Tep after the season and try to get him on board with cutting the cord.

Yall are living in fantasy land with this competition for a number 1 pick thing. Nobody does that.

You are wasting your time. This kind of information is waaayyyy over his head.

As of today what do you figure the odds are they do that? I am thinking he really has to mess things up before they would even think about it.

That isn’t how I would describe how we ended with Bryce. But I’ll spare you me repeating that.

You see it with Evero (which I believe is a Fangio system) - the entire premise of his D is to keep everything infront of them and to rally to the ball (we often play Cover 3). So when we get beaten for a bomb you know someone has fuged up big time. D in the NFL right now is about making the O be perfect - asking them to methodically march the ball down the field. QBs like Mahomes just want to chuck it, which is why he's whined about it.

Yea I do. I was one of them. But how he plays, on another team has zero relevance tk how Bryce Young is playing. In what way could it? That stuff is way in by rear view now. For most people. personally the extent of my interest is if I am browsing scores I will see how Stroud did but or maybe if a game was on I’d look at it just to see but I do that with other players too. oh .. tbe victory laps. I saw that. I said my piece before the draft. Probably pointed out how he was looking but it is 2 years later awe are stuck with Bruyce. And the debate now is no longer who we should have taken but is he going to ever prove himself.

50 but yeah people always seem to forget about it. I haven’t because I was so thrilled to see a real deep ball but haven’t seen it again since.

Exactly! It isn't that rare. My point was his argument about Youngs lack of passing yards against the Falcons and Jets wasn't as bad a thing as he was trying to make it to be.

Even if we don't, if Dalton mimics last year's performance, we need to look for better, though it will cost us to cut him.