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I expect him to do zip, just like I expect this team to do zip.

Know what I’m tired of hearing? “We’re gonna watch the tape and fix our mistakes.” I think they play more ping pong than they watch tape.

I've become this guy...

I like PANTSERS better than Panthers. Demand a name change NOW!!!

That's the cycle. The field is stagnant until someone figured out the next thing to move the pile. A huge chunk of old school baseball was such fluff. The ugly girlfriend in moneyeball comes to mind. Thay entire scout scene was hilarious from the 'expertise' they slang.

I wouldnt describe what they are doing as playing football

Actually you can still have a chance when you don't have a QB. John Fox made it work with Tim fuging The Golden Calf of Bristol. Quincy Carter made the playoffs. Mark Sanchez. There's plenty of data on teams competing hard, even when not winning, when they have a terrible QB. It's hard, but you can. Something tells me if you put Dalton in the rest of the season the team will still go 4-13 or worse. There's no excuse for Panthers sucking all three phases. Canales clearly can't figure it out, or he doesn't have the balls to make changes, so he has to go. He's running the same poo. He and Evero both. There are no adjustments at halftime.

Canales will probably be another guy who takes Tepper’s money and runs. He’s soft, he coaches soft and he basically lets the players run the team. Probably a great guy but not HC material.

I just don't want PFF's analytics guys tho. Give me number crunches and not guys selling their angles. Hard pass on that. I would rather take analysis from non financially biased people.

Best of the defense 1. DL Derrick Brown: 83.7 2. DL A'Shawn Robinson: 80.4 3. OLB Boogie Basham: 72.9 4. DL Tershawn Wharton: 66.8 5. S Tre'von Moehrig: 62.1

Worst of the defense 14. CB Mike Jackson: 47.2 15. OLB DJ Johnson: 39.9 16. OLB Princely Umanmielen: 37.6 17. ILB Trevin Wallace: 30.0 18. ILB Christian Rozeboom: 26.5

Worst of the offense 16. WR Hunter Renfrow: 59.1 17. WR Brycen Tremayne: 55.5 18. WR Dalevon Campbell: 53.8 19. QB Bryce Young: 53.7 20. RG Chandler Zavala: 47.5

Best of the offense 1. RG Brady Christensen: 83.5 2. RT Taylor Moton: 75.0 3. TE James Mitchell: 74.9 4. WR Tetairoa McMillan: 70.5 5. QB Andy Dalton: 69.1

I certainly wouldn't describe the way the Panthers played on Sunday as confident.

I mean, the Harbaugh brothers, Campbell, Vrabel, etc are all coaching. The NIL era kids really haven’t made it to the NFL yet

The overall vibe I get from Dave Canales on gamedays is he not a head coach. He's just running the offense and hands off with everything else. At the same time it's challenging to guage specifically where the lack of consistent intensity and aggressive football stems from when the go to defacto leader of the team is quiet unsure of himself and lacks the necessary physical tools to succeed at this level.

it is really difficult to lose 16 games in the NFL no matter how bad you look. The Panthers play enough bad teams to expect another couple of teams to come in, completely eat poo, and let us sneak out with a 16-10 victory or something. Like I can't imagine we lose to the Jets unless their defense just balls out.

Why did we even re-sign BC? Did he finger somebody’s butthole? Steal someone’s dog? Kick a coach’s grandma? The reluctance to play him is baffling.

So much of this flows from no one having confidence in the QB play. That's why it's time to move on from Young right now. It's killing everything about the team. Trade a late round pick for a backup and roll with them and Dalton the rest of the way.

They can hit the road in broad daylight for all I give a

I’m not sure this new generation would even respond to having their manhood challenged. I could see it becoming an HR issue before it motivated anybody.

honestly, his early mistakes might have completely paralyzed him. hes so afraid of making mistakes that he makes worse mistakes, at that point though, hes mentally broken and he doesnt have the physical tools to pull him out of that hole. Its like a pitcher with the yips, once it hits, they question everything and they never are the same and only the ones with stuff so dominating (100mph fastballs, wipeout sliders, devastating curveballs) overcome it.

There's some good pieces here, but the team has no direction or leadership, the GM appears to be in over his head, the owner has no idea how to hire the right people for the job and gutted the culture out of the team, the head coach is a decent play caller but not a head coach, and there are crappy QB options in the draft and free agency so we basically have to hope for a miracle. I say forget about the offense and just start drafting defense until the right QB and coach comes along. At the very least you can be a good defensive team with a running game

Superb Owl in the crosshairs