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We'd all be millionaires my brother

"Things like this" were never included with cable in the past, because there's never been anything like it. I can't think of a single league that you could watch every single game from it through your cable, even with an added sports package you'd just get a channel that carries various gamest. Pretty sure the NFL was the first league to do this with Sunday Ticket, and they've all followed suit since, but even all of those are separate expensive packages just like Sunday Ticket is. And given that the point of Sunday Ticket has always been for out of town fans to be able to watch their team every week, there really isn't any other math to run compared to the cost for an out of town fan to watch the Panthers every Sunday, at least legally. I can understand wishing it was cheaper, of course I do too, but when you really look at it logically, it really isn't a bad price point.

I’m not saying spend 20 million of it on a single player or two. I’m saying can we get a little better in some of these other areas instead of wasting time developing people because they are almost free. Maybe we take a chance at having a $2,000,000 LB in depth instead of a guy on minimum. And same in some of these other spots. Otherwise it’s going to be like Dalton and the receivers last year where you can’t properly evaluate and develop certain positions because those around them are failing.

People seem to forget a lot about Cam. He had a big arm but was not good at touch passes or leading his receivers. He was one of the worst screen pass throwers I’ve ever seen and never seemed to get the hang of the touch needed. He was notorious for overthrowing receivers. His best year as a deep ball thrower was his rookie year, imo, and then he seemed to get less accurate with it. Overthrew wide open Ted Ginn plenty. This is all pre shoulder issues. Don’t get me wrong, Cam was special and I was one of his biggest defenders, but he left a lot to be desired as a passer. We drafted big receivers so it was harder for him to overthrow them. For years we all lamented how our receivers didn’t have much opportunity for yac because Cam just rifled the passes to wherever the receiver was at the time. He was the antithesis of an anticipation thrower.

Thanks. So, across the board, I think we are paying about the same per premium service (used to be a channel) but now we have to watch commercials for the same price. Compare YouTube TV to standard service cable and you head will spin. (more channels on YT TV now but still not a lot on).

Yeah, but it’s Clemson

That was surprising to me too. Standard service was $12.84 though! With free additional outlets!

Definitely an odd comment for a Panthers Board…

Disney Channel for $10/month in 1993? Disney+ (with ads) is $10/month today

https://x.com/daringantt/status/1961084044101271651 We are staying in touch

I understand that scheme matters, however, Cam did get put into a system that people suggested was a poor fit and they were wrong. Norv Turner had a type and always valued a pocket passer, which wasn't Cam. I remember people being worried that Norv would take away Cam's strengths, or that Cam wasn't a naturally accurate passer so he would struggle to run Norv's offense, etc. But both player and coach adapted. And Cam played well and posted career highs in completed passes and completion percentage. So it is difficult for me to look at a young coach and QB pairing and just suggest "it can't work." If they want it to, it can. Even Canales said it took him and Bryce getting to know each other more and what plays they liked to run and how they could make plays work and expand on that. So you may have a point that Canales was simply trying to run his offense at the beginning of the season and it wasn't working, but there is also evidence to show that Canales is willing to adapt the offense because of how different the results were later. The video that was posted a little while back talked about how Canales tried to run more plays bunched around Bryce to offer more protection, but what Bryce needed was more options to throw to, so we started running a lot more empty sets and Bryce started succeeding. It's stuff like that that shows that this is evolving in the right way.

I don't want to ignore you, since you took the time to respond, but I just don't see any value in making sure my detest is properly distributed here, especially when there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.

I mean, he has a point when it comes to Clemson and the Panthers. Clemson has been by far and away the biggest producer of NFL talent within the Panthers' viewing area during the Panthers' existence and to not draft a single Clemson prospect during that time? Pretty bizarre. It'd be like the Falcons having never drafted a UGA player.

Damn dude. 1900's makes it sound even worse. I can never get an antenna to work these days for whatever reason. Guide is from 1993.

There's some okay-ish college games on this evening for us to get our football fix. Boise State vs. South Florida ECU vs. NCSU Nebraska vs. Rutgers

This reads like a Falcons fan comment

I'm an old man, too. My back hurts and I yell at the clouds plenty. That's why I use the antenna. I have never paid for cable TV. I have cable internet, but not TV. I get that we can feel like companies charge too much for a service, but I don't believe they are price gouging. They are simply working in the free market. When their price gets too high, either customers will decide to find another source or not watch at all. When the system is working correctly the customer always feels like they could get a slightly better deal and the supplier always feels like they could have charged a little more. On a side note, is there anyway you could post that pricing plan from the 1900's. I would love to see what we were complaining about back then.

I don't like round pegs and square holes. I can be find with either. You just have to pick one. It's been that simple from the start. Carolina remains in the round peg/square hole phase of life. again, you are fixated like most Bryce supporters on how passes are graded. Again, Teddy Bridgewater can grade well on the deep passes overall he happens to make. If he grades well on those select passes.....that doesn't somehow magically mean he isn't checking down out there is isn't pulling trigger when he needs to. The well graded deep pass doesn't make Teddy a gunslinging chunk passer playing the way a scheme would need him to. They remain two different things. his deep ball at Bama wasn't good. That's not my soapbox but you can find threads on that too where that he been discussed in detail. He just could just make off target throws to wide open dudes.

don't blame the cable companies for high cable bills blame the networks/channels that are charging the cable company for the privilege of carrying that material. ESPN itself runs about $13/per subscriber AND there's contractual obligation to keep ESPN on the basic tier, regardless of whether the household watches it or not. The cable company ain't making money on the ESPN carriage fee there's a terrific book about the history of ESPN that goes into how they created their carriage fee ... and how cable companies were stuck having to pay it because that's what the customers wanted. Then again, when ESPN started it was just cents per subscriber, so didn't sound as painful as it is today All the carriage disputes that happen (like YouTube TV's upcoming FOX blackout, if the contract isn't signed) are because the cable company is trying not to raise rates for their customers, but the channels are saying "pay up"

That dates back to my college days and their turn toward "idiots screaming the dumbest hot takes at each other" programming. ESPN was a helluva lot better when it was basically just live sports and a neverending cycle of SportsCenter. My dorm TV was pretty much on ESPN 24/7 back then and then came the hot take bullshit.

Give me this deal

Sunday Ticket was never intended for local viewers to watch the local team (local games are blacked out on the service) For out-of-town viewers who want to watch their favorite team? The price is on par (or cheaper) than going to a sports bar to watch their game, with the added bonus of being able to watch other games too it'd definitely be cheaper to offer a per-team subscription, but there are technology restrictions in figuring that specific subscription model out because it's not always the same network feed week after week That YouTube has determined there's interest for a monthly option, that's a step in the right direction that they're actively listening and trying to make things work without disrupting the base model

The league will never agree to it because it would make it painfully obvious which team's were actually driving the revenue for the league and the owners of those teams would start wanting their fair share of the cut versus an equal share.

They have essentially turned it into the View. I was over my mother's house doing some yardwork and had went in to get water. I hear these women shouting over each other, unable to make points due to interruptions by cohost, thus seeming incoherent, and in the end just coming off as next level annoying. It was the View. At some point ESPN execs looked at that format and were like you know what might work!

It really seemed to me that the wind went out of Frank's sails when it became obvious we were drafting Bryce. Bryce didn't fit his system and he knew it. I don't know if we led him to believe he'd have more input on the QB decision or if he just thought he'd be able to get in the room and be more convincing, but either way that was a combo that was never gonna work out.