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Meh. You don't necessarily trade a king's ransom for a draft pick, but you should strike when the opportunity presents itself. It's all about scouting and taking the BPA. You don't pass up on a viable QB---your guy who's just sitting there--just because it's year one to three and your team has holes. Just build your team.

TE needs an upgrade. Ben Johnson obviously does Ben Johnson things, but Caleb Williams having Loveland was huge for them this year, not to mention the few Kmet games where he goes off. But...where does that upgrade come from? How much money does Otton get on the open market, and is he worth it? Is Sadiq worth a 1st round pick when we have so many other needs? Point being, I can't see us moving on from Tremble *unless* we sign Otton and don't see us drafting Sadiq in the 1st. I don't think Tremble is worth the 6 million number, but I think he's one of the "core" guys in the locker room that we'll eat the overpay to keep around this year.

I hated the trade to #1 but wanted CJ he is still the better player but after the success and he started going to the all white party's and dating Amber Rose( a atheist, even though he said he is a man of God) it did make me wonder if his head was in the right place. Seems he thought he had arrived and the work ethic slipped.

His rookie year is very comparable to Ian Thomas rookie year. Both 300 yards with 1-2 TDs. He might not be a outright bust, but he's JAG.

The team around Cam was very good. Unlike Bryce.

A 4th round pick is a bust...as a rookie I'm pretty sure he had more receiving yards for us versus any TE after Olsen, dealt with injuries this year and ended on IR with a broken ankle. Bust is an exaggeration for a 2nd year guy that showed potential / flashes etc.

"the issue that I see with a lot of teams is they get a quarterback and they try and build around that quarterback. I think it should be the other way around. I think you should build a team and put your quarterback in it. " Bingo. I've been saying this for years now. I'm not saying NFL GMs are idiots, but they get stuck in an old school of thought and have a hard time thinking outside out the old paradigm. Draft the QB, no matter what! If you are at #1, I get it...you have to shoot your shot, especially if there's a legit franchise guy there. However, I keep going back to the '23 draft, we had zero business taking a QB especially at #9 and what it took to get to #1. That should have been a foundational draft to set up for a QB in the '24 draft. The roster was NOT ready yet. The Steelers are far enough back that they need to stay out of it in round one, maybe take a stab in the middle rounds for a QB and maybe strike gold. Obviously this would be a project guy year one and not starting. The QB position is the hardest for a rookie to adjust to. Why in the world would anyone think dropping said rookie into a dumpster fire is going to work out well? It's just common sense to me.

The catch still counted...Piñero missed the PAT because it went from 32 to 47 yards....the bum. Also the helmet removal was legal iirc, he was out of the field of play.

fug it, do it. Maybe it takes him getting Colt McCoy'd to finally end this failing experiment.

He's right, we should have never drafted Cam.

Yeah maybe. Borderline. I was thinking he was 13th for some reason. Trading up to get a 10 ish pick is nowhere near as risky as #1 or 2 Building a solid roster also puts you in the position of being where the Manning, Brady, Stafford want to go to win a or another SB.

Does Mahomes not count as highly drafted? He was top 10. But I generally agree. Drafting a QB in the top five is not usually successful. QB is such a crapshoot anyway.

So that’s what we’re doing. Phew, I thought Bryce was it. Now I see their real plan.

The Mannings were the last two highly drafted qbs to win a SB with the team that drafted them. Nobody else taken in top 10 won the Super Bowl with their original team. Stafford did it but after a trade.

Speaking about Steelers “I would not draft a quarterback for at least two to three years. That's just my opinion. I think as a GM, if I'm GMing this team ... the issue that I see with a lot of teams is they get a quarterback and they try and build around that quarterback. I think it should be the other way around. I think you should build a team and put your quarterback in it. Okay? It happened to me. They had a great football team. They plugged me in. We had a veteran group. It just works. It works better than trying to grab a quarterback and be, okay, we're gonna build around this quarterback, because then it's gonna take you four or five years to build around that quarterback. He's probably gonna look like poo up to it and then you're like, is he really our guy? is he not our guy?" I agree with him. Only downside is if you build too good of a roster you’re not drafting high enough to get your QB

I think Bryce running a legit, Cam style RPO would last like maybe two drives before he fumbled it or ran right into a kill shot.

What do they classify as RPO? I've seen that classified anywhere between "the QB sorta faked a handoff from shotgun" as being RPO all the way to "there's a mesh point and the QB is carrying the RB upfield and receivers are actually running routes." We run a lot of the former, not so much the latter (and I'd like to see more of it.)

Single route plays happen all the time, hate to burst your bubble. What do you think a screen is? But most short/medium plays are designed for half-field reads depending on the defensive coverage, so they're automatically cut down to two or three routes on the snap. Full five eligible progressions are not the norm in most offenses, just because QBs rarely have the amount of time available to reach the fourth or fifth receivers. Most routes are eliminated by coverage before the snap, and receivers recognize this as well and will adjust their routes accordingly, often either going through the motions or running a route designed to carry defenders rather than to get open (which is still very useful and is built into the play design.)

33 million dollars a year for this bullshit what is that fuging idiot smoking

https://web.archive.org/web/20260120145155/https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6983537/2026/01/20/panthers-bryce-young-future-contract/ here is the article without a paywall, fug the FAILING New York Times unless he plays for free i really dont want him here also whoever this person is is dropping straight fax no printer

Ya we got rooney'd. only chance he has left is with Pitt.

Looks like the Rooney guy. So now they can make a hire. Raiders do have Vance Joseph on the list but they have a bunch of other guys on that list - who knows if they wait and go through them all. I feel like that will take a long time, maybe too long.

Olsen was with Chicago 3 or 4 years and took a while to bloom. I remember wishing we could get him at 25 n 2007 but we took Beason. Couldn’t complain about that. I would really love to get a Jon Beason level ILB this draft. We have 4-5 other positions that could really use some 1st round talent. I feel like there will be someone at 19 at one of those positions with talent comparable to Sadiq. I am not gonna argue individuals really, I have done no research. Just philosophy. Address the holes unless it just isn’t close.

That was my point

The Raiders have completed a second interview with Panthers defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports. The team has complied with the Rooney Rule after interviewing Evero and former Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel, who appears headed to the Chargers as offensive coordinator. That allows the Raiders to hire a new coach at any time. Evero has served as the Panthers’ defensive coordinator since 2023, first taking the job under former head coach Frank Reich. While Carolina finished at the bottom of the league defensively in 2024, Evero helped turn the unit around to finish No. 16 in yards and No. 15 in points allowed in 2025. Evero has coordinated two top-10 defenses — first with what the Broncos in 2022 (No. 7 in yards allowed) and then with the Panthers in 2023 (No. 4 in yards allowed). He has also worked for the 49ers, Packers and Rams. The Raiders also have Bills offensive coordinator Joe Brady, Broncos defensive coordinator Vance Joseph, 49ers offensive coordinator Klay Kubiak, Seahawks offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak, Rams offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur, Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter, Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy, Rams passing game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase, Rams defensive coordinator Chris Shula and Broncos quarterbacks coach Davis Webb among their candidates. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/raiders-complete-second-interview-with-panthers-dc-ejiro-evero