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Its worse because the NFL would never allow all the teams to join the NFC East or something. There's a firm divisional structure with a salary cap to make it competitive.

Practice tweets/news from today (will post videos in the next cpl of posts if there are any worthwhile): K Ryan Fitzgerald now wearing #10. QB Hendon Hooker has #12. WR Dalevon Campbell has #81. RB DeeJay Dallas was in #1 but it's currently a practice-only number as he was playing the part of Jag's RB Travis Etienne on the scout team (his real number is #20). WR Jalen Coker walked out with a compression sleeve on his left leg. Later seen on the bike. LG Damien Lewis not wearing the red practice jersey anymore, should be full go for Thursday. LT Ikem Ekwonu was at practice but not dressed out as he recovers from an appendectomy. Worked out on the sideline with Jalen Coker + RB Jonathon Brooks. WRs Tetairoa McMillan, Xavier Legette, and Hunter Renfrow were all exempt from special teams practice. Likely three starters for Thursday. OT Yosh Nijman got the first looks at LT today. During the post-practice presser, Canales said that there was a lot of good energy today and that offense won the 1-on-1s which included a 40yd throw from Bryce Young to Xavier Legette early to "set the tone" (per Canales). Also stated that Icky is currently day-to-day. Commented on having a training plan for Coker this passed offseason and that he did a great job following it (though the quad issue is one he has had in the past). Renfrow's locker is between Dalton and Hooker (left) and Young (right). Sounds like they're trying to get Renfrow on the same page as the QBs in this offense to replace AT's role as that second set of "QB eyes" on the field. Icky talked about his symptoms that led to his surgery and mentioned that his dad, a physician, was who got him to go. Won't rush himself back, but hasn't ruled out playing Sunday. Renfrow said he had others, but he was either going to play for the Panthers or not at all. Said Bryce called him during the process and that when he was released the team mentioned that the Thielen trade might be coming. Got the news while picking up a trailer at his other job. Also said that Canales told him that he didn't think that he was physically ready yet but wanted him back on the practice squad. The Coker injury changed the calculus.

Most things that made it good are already dead, imo. The transfer portal combined with the money makes it all a complete joke. There’s no longer any sense of school pride, at least for me. If my team does well it is in large part because they paid better guys than the next team. When I went to college, I had some basketball players living in the same apartments and they’d show up to parties sometimes. You’d see guys around and they were just normal broke college kids like you. There was comraderie and pride that these guys saw the same school you loved and wanted to be there just like you. All of that is gone. It’s pro sports now, but worse. The players aren’t there long enough to feel like you know the team. No connection, just bragging rights over who has the largest and most affluent donor base.

Nothing wrong with a difference of opinion at all. I think we can both agree though that going from "there is no justification" to "there is nuance" is an abrupt pivot... enough to make anybody do a double-take.

Sounds like a stand up guy. I respect that.

Sheena quick confirmed this on mac and bone today

Don't take it personal just him well. Hopefully whatever is going on gets better.

Slim pickings this year. IDGAF how anyone on this team looks in any photo. Just look like a competent and competitive football team on gamedays.

Money ruins everything.

They've actually tried to address the position. That's the bare minimum. Doesn't make them well ran or competent. Why anyone would perceive acknowledging that as carrying water for the Haslam's while at the same time pooing posts over criticism of our own ownership is probably a good sign someone has gone off the deep end.

Thats the timeline Dabo has been out there talking of. Handful of ACC team will go to whatever mega conference there is. He thinks 30-50 total teams and that will be the end of college football. Everything that made it good at least

Well, you are comparing apples to oranges with that, and that is fine. I know you and I have differing perspectives on the team, and differences are good to have. My apologies for causing you to become a bit dizzy.

The way you went from "there is no justification" to "there is a bit of nuance" made my head spin.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody claimed the Teppers demanded that the players voted for the current captains.

I really think eventually it will be more of Premier League setup, and in many ways it is already moving to that with the possible playoff expansion and the framework that has been bantered around. Honestly, do conferences even matter anymore? Does the NCAA even matter anymore. There have been fundamental changes now that really seem to make both of those things a bit redundant and needless now.

A bunch of back in my day old men in this thread. What industry do you all work in? Can’t be anything that requires consumer adaptability. But I guess look where I am. Shouting into the void.

Of course that is not true. That would be the case in a vacuum, as what I think you are saying is not taking position differences into account, but rather making a year over year comparison of top pick to top pick. There is no justification for a top overall pick to not be better than half of the other players at their position. So, there is a bit of nuance that shouldn't just be ignored, and any lowering of expectations of a top overall pick entering their 3rd year should not be entertained.

Awful take. It’s not sinking. It’s ascending. There’s a reason Stephen A makes so much. Your views and thoughts are not the majority. Who gives a fug why they watch, they watch.

Doesn’t make that report not true. You’re saying the same thing. Just sounds like it was mandated and not him showing initiative.

We analyzing facial expressions now?

LOLOLOLOLOL

If he was smiling people would say he’s not taking it seriously.

The ACC is probably going to cease to exist within the next 3-4 years. Enjoy the final years.

What a great week of football. The ACC is going to be a tougher out for teams than last year and I’m glad to see that though I was really hoping for a better record against the SEC rather than a but Clemson sh!t the bed. Miami found a D and the offense can still score points, they are going to be dangerous. People can say what they want about Alabama sucking this year but they are still one of the most talented teams in the country with 5 star players all over the field and FSU ran all over them. Clemson will bounce back for sure, Duke has a legit QB but no defense, last years Miami? GT has a tank at QB, they are going to give teams fits and there are more teams worth mentioning but fudge all that typing. If Carolina can look good tonight, I’ll be feeling really good about ACC football this year! Side Note: Coastal is going to suck again under Tim Beck