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I truly believe we don’t need to look for another QB in the draft. We keep trying and failing. We had two elite QBs in Mayfield and Dalton. Trying to get a good QB in draft is 1/10 chances. Through FA 5/10 IMO. Rather than waiting on draft or continuing to Hope and pray BY gets better. Let’s go get our next QB now while they are cheap. I have thoughts but would also like your evaluation and thoughts. I’m sure there are diamonds in the rough and all can be had for nothing higher than a 4th round pick and 4 mil / year. This would free us up for big lineman on both sides and great skill positions. 1. Jameis Winston - big arm, mobile, gun slinger, great attitude 2. Malik Willis - big arm, looked great in his appearances last year for GB 3. Mac Jones (once Purdy comes back) - has been a good replacement and has SF at 5-2 Maybes - Sanders, Wilson, Garappolo, Mariota thoughts?

Fewer sacks would correspond with more running plays. Who knew?

Thank you for reinforcing to me like many posters before that I need to find another board with less negative crap from the same dozen posters who dominate every thread. Have fun going back and forth with the few who remain. After 20 years here you have finally driven me away as well as just about every other long term poster. Congratulations.

I think if the verdict is nay on Bryce (and you don’t have great options) what you need to do is find his replacement level. That shouldn’t be that hard and would be cheaper probably. Basing it on if you can’t upgrade at least don’t downgrade.

Logan Wilson (starting LB for Bengals) has requested a trade. Don't know much about him but figured I'd add to this topic.

Not many 5'10" PGs in the NBA

Greg is playing the media game no different than anyone else. He has a great deal of knowledge but he isn't going to bluntly assess the Panthers cons publicly. But he has eyes.

Wow he just came right out and said it. I give him credit for his honesty I guess. And this was supposed to be Bryce Young's comparative ceiling.

Agreed. I actually asked Chat GTP why are centers so important to the O-line. You'll find their response interesting. The center is absolutely critical to the offensive line, even though he rarely gets the spotlight. Here’s why: 1. He’s the “quarterback” of the offensive line The center identifies the defensive front before the snap — calling out who the “Mike” linebacker is and setting protection assignments for the guards and tackles. He adjusts the blocking scheme based on shifts, stunts, and blitz looks. In most offenses, the QB and center share communication responsibilities, but the center’s call is often what the rest of the line follows. Without a smart, communicative center, the whole line can fall apart under pressure or disguise. 2. He’s central to blocking coordination The center is literally the pivot point — coordinating combo blocks, zone steps, and double-teams with both guards. In zone-blocking schemes, he’s essential for lateral movement, reading the defensive tackle’s leverage, and passing off blocks smoothly. A poor center can destroy run-game timing or allow penetration that blows up plays before they start. 3. He handles some of the toughest matchups Centers face nose tackles — often the biggest, strongest player on the defense — directly over the ball. He has to snap accurately, then instantly anchor against 300+ lbs of power, often with one hand still finishing the snap motion. That’s one of the most technically demanding jobs in football. 4. He ties the line together mentally and physically The center’s ability to recognize stunts, delayed blitzes, and coverage disguises helps the entire line stay in sync. If a guard or tackle makes a mistake, the center can often help bail them out through quick adjustment calls or recovery blocks. A great center also brings leadership and stability — think of guys like Jason Kelce, Travis Frederick, or Alex Mack — they elevated everyone around them. 5. Why some teams don’t draft centers early Despite the importance, centers rarely go in Round 1 because their positional value (impact on points/wins per dollar or cap hit) is lower than QB, LT, Edge, or CB. But analytically, a great center can add similar efficiency gains to a good left tackle by reducing QB pressure and improving run-game consistency. In short: The center is the brains and anchor of the offensive line — the glue that makes five individuals operate as one. He might not be the highest-paid, but when you have a great one, your offense usually runs smoother in every phase. ------- I'd NEVER complain if we took an elite prospect in the 1st or 2nd round.

This is true. Except when it isn’t. I mean he is not consistent. He does a lot of the same stuff he was soing in 2023. Hate to say it but I see it. That is what I mean by internalized. It is not ingrained in him and he randomly goes back to his bad stuff - gets rattled or something. Over something. I don’t t know what triggers it but it all juat flies away and you have the plqykng scared afraid to get hit Bryce. Bails early. The failure footwork comes back, the whole deal. That is why we have to hope he plays all the games so we can document where he really is at.

easier question: With the numbers I just listed, in his 3rd year, what is there to support? What do you see that we arent seeing?

fug the round you take the best player available. The Lions were laughed at for the Gibbs and Laporta draft now look at them. What you don't do is bet on raw athletic freaks over polished football players that may have shorter arms or are undersized

JJ has looked fuging terrible in an absolutely great offensive situation.

Yeah, I'm sure this is exactly what the Panthers pictured when they traded a king's ransom to trade up to draft him #1. A third year starting QB that forces you to run a third string QB offense because of his limitations.

Chargers vs Vikings? eh.. Apparently Wentz stole JJ's job lol.

Are we not in year 8 of Tepper with only misery to show for it? It is hard to criticize people for impatience. But we are going to have to find some more patience.

Keep drafting LB in 3rd+ and keep watching TEs and RBs dominating us

Sherrod Martin was a 2nd round safety too

I mean....I think we are getting ahead of ourselves a bit there but Inhave been very pleased with the early returns. Cautiously optimistic.

you know he has an AOL account as well

One guy keeping it alive

Yep. Added that after more thought

It would be nice if he got a couple I N Teehee

How is it subjective, he literally ranks 25th in completion % 24 in yards. 11th in attempts and 30 something in ypa. His qb rating is godawful as well. Like the OP asked what the fug does he excel at? By every metric he fuging sucks all while having the 3rd best rushing attack, a top tier line and wide wr options And your comment about making others better around him is lol funny