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Of course not. Like I said. Ron was way more experienced coming in. That’s why he had a better record. He still had to figure things out to make the jump to 10+. I don’t know if DC will make it. His lack of experience around the league may be a big problem for him. 7 years with Pete Carrol and then one year in Tampa. Not a lot of reference points to draw from.

It's a sad reality that the Panthers would've honestly been better off over the past several years to make major decisions via Huddle poll than going with the decisions they actually made. People say "oh, you think you know more than the professionals?" No, I don't. I know that. That's why it's so baffling watching them making obvious huge blunders in real time.

ChatGPT would do a better job. Can't overthink things if you don't think at all.

Ron's two seasons he took to figure it out would be massive successes compared to the 2018-Present period. Those 6 and 7 win seasons look pretty great now. Do you honestly think he will jump up to a 10+ win year in 2026? That's what Ron did.

I disagree, a lot of people on here have said their opinions on signees, draftees, coaching hires, who to play etc and have made better decisions than the front office. Not saying they could run a team, but they seem to be better armchair GMs than our current regime the last 6 years.

You might want to look at that table again. Round 2 has the least QB's taken in that time period. What is more interesting is how the "darts at a dart board" happens in the 6th and 7th round. Those are the 2nd and 3rd most frequently drafted rounds for NFL QB's. If you are strictly using my criteria for "success" it does lend credence to that not being an awful strategy. At 17-21% chance to get a bare minimum of 30+ starts OR a 5+ year career. That's pretty good for a very throwaway pick. I don't know how that would compare to other positions. I would maybe have to adapt what I have done to something like PFR's Career AV to set a line that accomplished roughly the same result as I have from the spreadsheet. If I can get to a number value, applying this to each position wouldn't be that hard. Not sure how "fair" that is without making some adjustment based on averages for each position. I would have to do that as well, I think. A positional "handicap" of sorts.

While I agree he should have the opportunity to select his own qb, following that does he then get the standard 3 years? New regimes mean new qbs. No coach should tie his future to someone they didn't actually pick. For whatever reason, Canales has done just that. Whether it is being strong armed by Tepper, or overwhelming hubris that he could be successful with Young, it sure seems he has now made his bed.

One of the benefits of doing a few stints as a coordinator is working under different head coaches and observing how they do things. Canales has worked under Pete Caroll and then he was an OC for 1 season. Honestly I think he needs more time in the oven and he might be good at his next HC gig. I'm not sure he's ready for this job and I don't know that he will ever be. But hey I hope I'm wrong.

Last Sunday the Bills came to town and took the Panthers manhood. McDermott made Canales his bitch.

I suspect regardless of QB playing you will see 3+ total TO's from the QB position versus one of the past pass rushing attacks in the NFL and a very weakened offensive line.

More qbs are taken in rounds 1 and 2 and the success rate will be higher as the supposed top guys are gone before round 3. That is always a given. After round 2 it's just pure luck to find a long term starter. That has always been the case. Im not sure you will find anything new there.

I think he was hoping that Chuba would play his way out of his poor play but its just been getting worse and worse. its not like this is new, I remember the same feud about Steven Davis and Deshawn Foster. rarely do things work out as well as Williams and Stewart

Last Sunday our boys brought a big bag of iron pyrite to the cash window, and were aggressively escorted off the property by grown ass men. I expect no different against GB.

This. He became a HC too early. If we want to see who he can be, we have to give him a few years to figure it out. It took Ron a few years and he had much more experience than DC. Oh, and he needs a QB.

The first of more to come

I think he gets minimally outcoached frequently. That doesn't get enough air time.

You know his name is just Dan right? like how hard was it to say either GM or Dan but who the hell is DM?

Canales is just inconsistent week to week sometimes, we see a lot of good and a lot of bad. I think that can just be chalked up to growing pains of a probably too young NFL Head Coach. I still like him, even with his faults, and he deserves to pick his own QB for some continuity with the team.

Didn’t even try for Harbaugh and Vrabel, granted, we don’t know the whole story with those two, maybe they didn’t even want to actually be here (who can blame them) but settling in Canales…oof

Wouldn't all of this point to him being the one thats running the show? He's the one calling the plays lol

No, I take no account at all for college production. It has no value to NFL success. What you did before the NFL is irrelevant. That would be more of an "expectation vs. result" thing. That's SUPER difficult to quantify and going to be extremely subjective. It's not about predicting future success, I am just trying to show which NFL Draft Rounds generally have more "success" drafting a QB. The way it is currently built and using the 1994-2018 dataset this is the result using my criteria:

Fair but we were 3-3 under Matt Rhule and Sam Darnold once too.

We are about at the halfway point now so its gotta be time for a beat guy to ask about the 5th

Don’t disagree He inherited Young However, consider the decision to not get a better backup QB and practice squad QB falls squarely on him He is both HC and OC it isn't like he doesn't see Dalton everyday for the past 2 years

Look at Belicheat without Brady. I refuse to fully judge Canales until he has a QB.