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And meanwhile teams that are out of the hunt have players leaving in free agency before the season's over.

The most basic way to put it: We have a clear path if we can sweep them and they just lose 1 of the 3 other games. They finish 2-3 We finish 3-1 (2 of those wins the sweep) We win the tie-breaker, we're the 4th seed at 10-7 That gets it done. We have to take care of the Saints or else it's pretty much done.

Legitimate improvement is really debatable

yeah, mobile posting has been a bit spotty w/ the ads

What I am not trying to do, is search within games every week to explain why the worst QB in the NFL since he entered it.....isn't just a weak and bad QB. This thread/convo isn't about an award. If it is, that's not a convo I am having. I do not believe BY is improving. Whatever degree is just too insignificant to matter. The Panthers are improving. And where they are improving this year, is really clear. I think about the Atlanta game the exact same thing I said about the Atlanta game last year. If you give anyone unlimited opportunity. Talking bad players. They will have a random outlier here or there. And you won't find my posts saying anything bad about his play in the 2 @ Atlanta games. I have acknowledged those 2 singular games were the 2 actual good games by Bryce many times.....lol, sorry that is real.

To be fair, Jake Delhomme has more than three years under his belt when he came to us. Bryce has shown legitimate improvement season over season. I don't think we can deny that.

TB will have to lose to both the saints and falcons for us to win the split tiebreaker. Thankfully the falcons game is TNF so we will know what needs to be done in about 8 and a half days.

Yep. Everyone knew the deal at that point. I liked the analogy Saban made. Like imagine it's the NFL and the Bears are headed to the playoffs but the Giants call Ben Johnson up and they're like "So your buyout is $60M? Cool. Done deal." and now you have a playoff bound NFL team whose coach is leaving to go to a division rival with the playoffs right around the corner. That's pure chaos and that's why the NFL doesn't allow that to happen but that's exactly what's going on right now with Ole Miss and LSU with Lane Kiffin. The NCAA has to put in guardrails to stop that type of situation from being able to happen.

Facebook status: It's complicated

Testaverde? (I'll see myself out)

Thing is though, you can analyze stuff from a bunch of different angles and still be wrong if the stats are your guiding force. I've watched enough football in my life to trust my eyes over my Excel. Stats have their purpose, and they work for some, but I've seen too many anomalies to make a high priority of them.

I asked because it ws double posted, looks like it's been cleaned up since though

Actually appears that you're trying way too hard to discredit any thing positive Bryce Young does. Just said the same stats would be fine for the award if it was by another player, but because it's Bryce it isn't good enough. He was hidden all game sans a few plays. Come on. You have to see what you're doing. Nobody here is saying Bryce is the guy yet. He's put up some absolute stinkers. But he's improving and if he has a good game, then he has a good game. If he has a bad game, then he has a bad game. Everything is either a bad game or comes with a caveat to you. What did you think about his 450 yards game against ATL? Gonna go out on a limb here and guess you'll say he only plays well against ATL and most of his yards were from YAC. Unreal...

well, there is a talk about what they should do....and a talk about what we think they will do. Both different. When is the last time the Panthers were presented with paying a RB vs managing the RB spot for cheap and made the cheap smart play. RBs and D have been the primary driver in all but 1 win this season. I think the setup is for the Panthers to be super dumb. Pay Rico. Extend Bryce. Then next year, you don't get the luck and outlier performances we are seeing this season. Predictable Panthers will be predictable.

That would be the incorrect one.

Keep getting guys on a 1 year prove it deal and let someone else pay the big money contract. A strong offensive line will get you good RB production.

I predict we let Rico walk for a big contract in FA. We will roll into next season with Chuba and Brooks. If Brooks isn't healthy then it will be ETN. God help us all.

well, the Panther way.....would be to invest big money into not one but two running backs. Despite, Rico sort of being living walking proof.....you don't need to because you can find RBs. or just watch any RB go down and see dudes produce behind them without a huge drop off outside of maybe 2 or 3 guys.

Its the Panthers way

The 5th year Almost guarantees we are resigning rico because no way they think this kid can function without a run game right?

Everyone kind of eyerolled Crazy Old Al Davis when he had his overhead projector, explaining why he fired Kiffin with cause, and that he was not the person that he thought he was hiring.

I mean, the Rams only punted once. A team that doesn't turn the ball over turning it over vs a D without so many of our starters was wild. Moving the ball was pretty effortless for them. Think even with a good QB, they shred our D at much easier pace than vice versa. Especially w/ no Horn out there. Puca and Adams is just nasty business that we don't match. And they were 7 yards per carry on the ground. Like I said, the win is great. Any given Sunday. But if this front office starts thinking we aren't overachieving and getting some luck going our way this year.....I expect more really bad decision making.

He doesn't need an algorithm. Its just him.

We played a brand of football that masks terrible QB play. With a good QB, and a turnover free game, we match them pretty evenly.