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2024 draft was probably one of the worst in panther history 2025 draft on paper looked good but as we sit today, granted its early, there is a lot to be desired He obviously will get another stab at it, but so far I aint seeing it, especially if he was truly advocating for not trading burns and young over stroud

I dont know about singing his praises. I think a lot of it is people thinking scourton is some budding defensive super star which I just don’t see at all. i can’t believe for a second that Dan Morgan who would have maybe won Super Bowl mvp saw Bryce and thought it could work. There’s just no way. Same thing with Reich and mccown etc

I don't see how anyone that watched Panthers football in the past 3 years could argue for Bryce young. It's been terrible. We had more offense under Teddy 2 gloves.

Icky is a marshmellow....

I think the book has been fairly written on Darnold, and by and large stays true. He can be rattled by pressure, and will lose his composure. If a team can get to him and have something go wrong in the plan, the mistakes and errors will pile up. Rams have a better offense, Seahawks sport a better defense. Should be a good 1.

Not a defense of him...an understanding of the problem. (something you seem to be lacking right now) Bryce in a Canales offense is not an example of a stylistic mismatch, but I can give you one if that helps. When he was playing for the Panthers, Cam Newton sat under OC's running Coryell type offenses. Newton had a big arm and was a strong runner. He fit into that sort of attack very well. Then he goes to New England, where at the time they were running an Earhardt-Perkins system (similar to WCO In a lot of what they do but very different terminology). The Patriot offenses back then were heavily based on timing and rhythm style passing, not something that Newton was especially well suited for. So he washed out at New England, not because he had poor ability (his abilities had been on display here on a regular basis) but because he didn't fit what they wanted to do with their offense. I always go back to Jeff Garcia as one of the prime examples of this issue. Garcia in a WCO looked like a world beater. Put him in any other scheme though...yikes! So again, Young's issues here have nothing to do with any failure to mesh with Canales. Hell, is say Canales has actually done pretty well at adapting his system to who he has rather than trying to jam square pegs into round holes. Again, it doesn't take an elite level of football knowledge to get this. It's pretty basic. But if you're not even capable of understanding what the real problem is, how are you going to know you to find the right solution?

Me when I go on the Official Anti-Semitism Channel and do the Official Anti-Semitism Dance with my Anti-Semite buddies: "Huh? What are you even talking about?"

We're going to have to play the Seachickens vanilla the first time, incase we play them in the playoffs..

He usually gets the tight azz in big games...hes 28 and seen a lot of sht in the last 7 years...he really should be getting it together by now.

the insane leash and the defense of him is about as unique as Bryce is himself. One of one. 170 yards, maybe a TD, maybe a turnover. That's Bryce Young. The good day variant.

Any one got bets in? Good luck to ya

I don’t have the time to prove this and go through all-22 and whatever (and I’m doubtful I even could without knowing the plays) but I’m convinced that Canales’ passing scheme with Bryce is one read and check down, and that it’s a tedford style early air raid system. Its quick because it relies on presnap reads and not asking the qb to do too much. It’s not productive at the nfl lvl because it only works with huge talent differentials. You could also run it with basically any nfl qb. Most of the receiving options on the field are just decoys/tiring out defenders. this is why the panthers offense is so anemic. Kirk cousins here is talking about changes in approach and he talks about going from something similar (basically just reading safeties) to what teams are doing since mcvay came along. https://x.com/rapsheet/status/2001477747852341324?s=46 This doesn’t prove my suspicion necessarily and obviously Canales doesn’t really come from a prolific offensive background but I guarantee you Bryce isn’t doing what Kirk is talking about in the second half of this.

I don't like it. You don't like it. But it is what Dan Morgan is going to do. Many people here have sang his praises for months now with some even suggesting he never wanted Bryce Young to begin with which I don't believe for a second. But at the end of the day Dan Morgan listens to David Tepper and he is going to do what he is told.

If you want to get instantly better, get rid of Evro and Bryce...Not hard to see after 3 freaking years....

and there are alot of bad qbs this year. take out the atlanta games and his year has truly been bad. no other panthers qb has ever had the mile long leash that byoung has gotten and i expect him to be the panthers starter for 2 more years and still just be the byoung he has proven to be over 3 years now.

Okay, looks like you've failed the quiz, so here's the answers Joe Montana and Steve Bono were the same style player with similar skill sets. One was just better than the other. Brett Favre and Rex Grossman were also the same type of player. Again, one was demonstrably higher in ability than the other. Hell, Tom Brady and Teddy Bridgewater were even the same style of player. One has numerous Super Bowl rings and the other is coacing a high school team. What's the difference? Ability All of these examples show the distinction between style, skill set, and playing ability. If you still can't understand that after this many examples and damn near remedial level explanations, not much more I could tell you. Heck, you probably don't even have to know football to understand what I'm saying. It's just basic analysis. But then, as the saying goes, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

I'm a simple man

Darnold had 4 INTs in the last matchup vs Rams.

And on the touchdown drive the Saints scored quickly and ate very little clock

I got zero interest in talking about other QBs and teams when we could just talk about the unicorn that is Bryce Young and his unproductive nature in our offense. 24th ranked offense 25th ranked passing offense 26th comp % Top 10 in bad throw % that's not a fit. If you want to say it is, I'm not following you down other roads.

@CRAWould it help if I put names to it? Late 80s, early 90s: Joe Montana and Steve Bono were both quarterbacks for the San Francisco 49ers. Montana was the starter, Bono was a backup. Why was Montana the starter and not Bono? Did they have different styles, or was it differing levels of ability?

No need when you can't acknowledge basics. That's only fitting in a Mr. Scot world. And we don't live in that world. 24th ranked offense 25th ranked passing offense 26th comp % Top 10 in bad throw % *and there are a LOT of people helping Bryce out this year in the NFL sucking in 2025

Saying something assertively doesn’t make it true, and I don’t know in what world picking up Bryce’s 5th year is some fait accompli He’s certainly not earned it on the field. Playing arm chair psychologist with tepper isn’t very compelling.