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Yeah, The Ravens' offense was stalling out while the Lions' offense was humming. The Henry fumble sealed their fate but I didn't like their chances regardless. But either way, Derrick Henry 4th quarter fumbles have cost them one game and cost them and an opportunity in another. That Bills game was over until his fumble gave them new life and his fumble last night made their chances go from "not good but maybe" to "we need a miracle".

Who in this post is hugging his nuts?

I don't think we have been good yet. We were generally effective yesterday when we got scoring opportunities but struggled to move the ball under a heavy blitz and new receivers who he is still trying to develop better chemistry with and a makeshift line. And last week the comeback was impressive until it fizzled out. But week one we were bad and we have way too many penalties and picks and the occasional WTF play. We were better yesterday and the offense had no turnovers although special teams did. We are a work in progress as any panther fan would expect. I think we have the most rookies on our roster compared to any other team. No one thinks we are all that amazing or thar Bryce is the answer for sure. But we aren't the worse either and this constant negative narrative really is ridiculous and drowns out everyone else. I doubt I will be here much especially if we lose. The conversation is so negative and constant I don't even check in until Wednesday. But I will be here like always since 2004. Just not engaging in conversations with folks who just want to bitch and complain over and over with anything they can find as if that makes things better or they are saying something we all don't feel at times. Most of us realize this is year 2 of a rebuild and there are ups and downs. You have to be comfortable on the roller coaster. But anytime you point out the good you get inundated with negative crap as if we didn't see it too......

Nick is the bed sore on the backside of our defense! If we are going youth movement like Canales says, he should be relegated to back up special teams coverage.

Some of these are funny, that one wasn't.

I don't give a poo if James T. Kirk is the starter in Atlanta.

I said before the season we were likely a 6-8 win team and that assumed we'd win at least one of the first two games. I think 7 wins is our ceiling with 6 being more likely. Granted, that could change if we get to the end of the season and one or more of our opponents rest their starters for the playoffs.

Our secondary is coming together real well for sure. And Brown is great for sure. Hoping with more time our LBs develop a bit more. We have a lot of inexperience/youth on the D that could really pay off down the line

Tim Donnelly said it best yesterday, we didn’t really pour it on offensively because we didn’t have to. They were doing it to themselves, and we just needed to control the football and not turn the ball over. Plus, Atlanta’s defense has came a LONG way with Ulbrich. Probably Top 3 toughest defense we will see this year.

Forget the money we paid Moehrig that I warned was a mistake, this might be our best pair of safeties.

Whether if EE is here going forward or not, but another good/decent defensive draft and we have the makings of finally a top level defense. Being anchored by Horn and Brown. Both absolute studs. But again its going to suck ass if we have to blow a top 10 pick on a qb instead of a lb, safety or whatever

As usual for the last couple weeks I do care more about your thoughts from the all 22 on the defense. Seeing some of our younger guys making plays this week on D was great.

and the same 3 or 4 hugging his nuts

In what metric is the Panthers offense good? Honest question as I haven't looked at the stats relative to other teams this year.

Good points but the Panthers got what they deserved in Corral. Mingo not working out surprised me.

I think they were in the top half or so of the year last year, but the point you are alluding to is pretty good - if you're good in short yardage these per play metrics have less importance

My point exactly. Does that mean they have a poor offense? Of course not. That is why cherry picking stats without context rarely results in an accurate and fair assessment.

Lotta football to go, and a lot of things can change. Team health makes a huge difference down the road. The big thing is and will be getting a rhythm. 2015 and 2013 are great examples. That said, while we have a schedule, we dont really know who we're gonna play past a few weeks from now and by that I mean, like, end of october we're scheduled to play The Buffalo Bills...but between now and then, what if theres an injury to Josh Allen or just suffer a rash of injuries to any position group really. Lots can change honestly and after 3 weeks, we're healthier than we were last year after week 3 with our only serious injuries to Hunt and Corbett (who...sorry the guy got injured, but Mays continues to outplay him). the other injuries are short term return situations with JT Sanders, XL, and Coker.

I get a lot more than you. Scheme dictates average yards per play for example. If you run a lot like Philly your average yards per play will go down versus a team that passes all the time. And if you only play 3 games then one outlier like Jacksonville holds more weight than it should. Plus yards per play doesn't correlate to wins for example versus effectiveness in the red zone. So yeah I get it and know that stats like yards per game much like yards per play have little correlation with wins and loses and the final score is the only thing that matters at the end of the day not some BS cherry picked stat.

Philly is always going to be low. They do half a dozen tush pushes a game or more.

I think we start at 7 and go up from there depending, again, on how the defense plays.

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Offensive garbage.

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Every post in the huddle devolves in to the same 3 or 4 people stroking each other about how bad Bryce is.