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You really think Canales tipped the game plan with that statement? He's getting 20+ touches Sunday.

5 or 6 wins seems likely. 9 would require opponents gifting wins and even then it's hard to imagine. Having the easy part of the schedule early mixed with notoriously slow starts and adjustments makes it hard to see 7+ wins even with gift games included. Teams have played down to them and still pulled out wins the last few years.

Never doubt Vegas.

Not sure I would say the Saints can play defense. If our defense didn't exist last year, they would have been the worst run defense in the NFL. They made no improvements to their front 7 in stopping the run in the offseason, so I see that being a struggle again. They also have an oline that cannot pass block for crap - combo that with Rattler/Shough at QB, and that sounds like the 2023 Panthers dilemma we had to endure.

They're already ahead of you on that.

I don't know - Tampa was pretty fortunate last year in some of the wins they got when they were outplayed by a good amount. Wirfs and Godwin are already nursing injuries that will keep them out a few weeks and if the Bucs lose them longer, that will hurt them pretty bad. I don't trust their defense also - you can definitely throw on them all day long. They are definitely better, but all it takes is 1 or 2 key injuries to change things quickly - losing someone like Wirfs (when they don't really have oline depth) can bring them much closer to our level pretty quickly. I think our defense will be a lot better this year and closer to the likes of 20-25th overall than far and away last place like we were last year. In that range, we won't be far from Tampa's defense (and possibly better).

I think our best case is 7 wins. This defense is still an absolute liability. Unless the offense starts putting up 30 a game there's no way we pull off more than 7.

Seeing the team be absolutely incompetent in the pre season makes me think 6 wins is out of reach. Hope Im wrong but damn that was ugly.

Josh Allen about to eat Bryce’s lunch

I never thought I'd see the day when Adam Rank would be high on the Panthers.

Playing the Saints 2x, Jags, Cards, Pats, Jets, Dolphins, Cowboys sans Parsons, and having the other 2 teams in our division not be great is the only reason we have a slim chance of finishing with a winning record. Don't get me wrong, I still fully expect us to go like 6-11, but the schedule is looking pretty fortuitous for us outside of games against GB, Buffalo, Rams, and maybe SF (if they are healthy).

You never had mac&cheese with pulled pork/brisket? Or pulled pork/brisket tacos with cheese? Delish!

heck, I'm tempted to drop my 6 down to 5. Canales already talking about how doesn't want to give Hubbard too much work early this year. Dude, look at your schedule. You should be all in on winning early. Which is why you should of been running a heavy preseason.

Meanwhile, NC likes their BBQ sauce to smell like my balls after working in the yard. Get yourself on some real Carolina BBQ. Mustard-based alllllll day!

I think the Bucs win like 7 or 8 games and Atlanta wins 9 and takes it. Michael Penis time.

They are more optimistic than I am. I think we win 3-4 games and Tampa easily wins the division.

Facts. One injury, and the season is screwed.

I'm cool w/ the Texans and Ravens calls added to my list. It basically all follows Vegas' outlook.

The only one I agree with is Buffalo. The 3 easiest are Bills, Ravens, Texans.

I'm not sure that Tampa is the clear favorite. Yes they have the best offense on paper, for sure. But that defense? Tampa's linebackers and secondary are suspect. I think they are going to get ripped apart in the short and intermediate passing game. The best player in their back 7 is Lavonte David and he is 35. And if Dean or Winfield get injured? Oof.

my favorite is Renfrow isn't healthy enough to even be on the active roster over David Moore to.......Renfrow is obviously our starting slot WR. Panthers panthering

I think the 3 easiest division winners to call are the Bills, Eagles, and Bucs.

This ain't a burger, dickhead

Gotta get those early excuses lined up

biggest concern for me in terms of record, the first 5 game slate is where the Panthers need to be picking up decent % of their total wins. and I think the Panthers appear to be limping into the season. Past 2 years, that was has been talked about and it panned out as such. Nothing says the Panthers are coming in hot....which they really need to IMO.