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The more I hear the more confident that we are going to be happy with Sam Darnold This was just on the Herd Show.
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Totally agree. The whole time I watched the SB I could not help but think exactly this. However, @MHS831pointed out. There are some good prospects in round 2. As long as we don't wait for day three to come before we choose a OT. I think we'll be ok.
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I dislike the guy because the 2 times he has been with us he's made terrible moves and thinks he's a mastermind at finding obscure talent. Both times with us he has managed to make insane contracts and over value players to the point where we are strapped with lousy contracts for years.
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Thanks It's always nice to hear some insight on what we are thinking outside of D. Newton and J. Jones (neither do I trust). I think it will be very important if we select a WR that he is skilled in the entire route tree and not just a deep threat. Too many deep threats don't seem to pan out to be great in the NFL. My 2 cents.
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Picking your brain. What makes you think we won't go LT? (Curious not insulting) You don't think Slater is worthy of this pick? Some say he's better than Sewell. WR IMO is a luxury pick, something we really can't afford if we plan on contending soon. I think with the trade of Darnold the best thing we can do is put a good O-line in front of him.
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The post is about Washington and Hurney. I think my comments are highly relevant to the opening post. Seems you are so hell bent on giving Hurney credit for one super bowl appearing 17 years ago. Hurney has a huge track record of reaching for some obscure player no one has ever heard of and trying to make him a star. He sucks at it. The difference in the HUB football player is that he actually played football while the TE has never suited up. Get a grip and stick with the opening post instead of protecting your favorite GM.
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I for one wouldn't but Zod might want to stand by the server for a meltdown if we chose a WR at 8. I said earlier if Pitts and Sewell are gone at 8. Trade down with a team that wants a QB because most likely if those two are off the board there is going to be a QB at 8.
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Teddy will likely get cut if we can’t trade him.
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Ja Rhule's topic in Carolina Panthers
Please put down the crackpipe and check into rehab. Absolutely, no way Teddy is going to be our #1 going into the season. Worst case scenario we hold onto him until the last minute. Here's my take. If someone wants Bridgewater they cannot wait until we cut him because we have time to cut him. They need to get the QB into place before the season. He needs to learn the playbook. Waiting until we release him will put them way behind if we do it a couple of days before week 1. -
Our JAGs have experience. Hurney is trying to re-invent A. Gates. A former Basketball player, the difference is Gates played football. This guy has never played one snap and Hurney wants to make him a professional football player. Wait till some linebacker cleans his clock (legal hit) in practice.
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I don't believe any QBs are going to be there when we pick at 8. There is a frenzy for QBs and several teams that have question marks at QB. Teams are going to pursue these QBs until they are gone. If one makes it to 8 the choice is going to be tough. Take one of the top 4 non-QBs talents in the draft or trade back and get more draft capital. I believe that if there is one QB left and two or three teams bidding for that pick. We could sell that pick for, at minimum, 1st this year and 2022. Not to mention the extra picks that will make close the deal for the winning team. IMO If Sewell or Pitts is there, we take him if not trade back. We are still going to get a solid first round pick just not guys we have been talking about.
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Marty is still looking for that hidden Gem that is going to make him a genius.
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Source: Panthers Open to Drafting Quarterback With No. 8 Pick
DaveThePanther2008 replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
Trading with Denver probably only nets us an additional 2nd and maybe Fitts pulls a lower round pick just for good measure. If we get down near Washington and New England. I definitely believe we'll get an additional 1st. Definitely gives us more buying power in 2022 if Darnold fails. -
Source: Panthers Open to Drafting Quarterback With No. 8 Pick
DaveThePanther2008 replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
If Wilson fell to 8 I might believe we'd take him, but he's not. If one of those QBs falls to 8 it likely means Pitts and Sewell are gone. I think there will be a bidding war for the remaining QB. I've said it before but depending on who's trading with us and how far up they are moving. We might squeeze out a 1st next year. If it happens that Darnold is not the answer we could package our 1st round picks and move up. I know one thing. I'll be happy when this draft is over. I think this has been the strangest offseason I can remember. -
Obviously he failed Speech 101. That's funny that you said that. I couldn't help reflect to my time in college and speech 101. I kept thinking good god you know and um.
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Well I won't be throwing anything at the TV if we select Pitts. He is going to cause problems for every team in the league. If we have 2 of the biggest threats in the game (CMC and Pitts) our offense is going to be scary.
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Go on record: WHO DO YOU WANT!
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Brooklyn 3.0's topic in Carolina Panthers
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If New England, Denver and WFT get in a bidding war we could potentially get a 1st next year. Which I would be extremely happy with. If Darnold doesn't impress we have 2 first that we can use deal with. Whether it's Watson (if he somehow clears all his problems) or any of the prospects from next year. Imagine the WFT drafting Lance and he has a poor season but shows potential that pick could be top 10. If Darnold fails (IMO he won't) than we could potentially have 2 picks on the top 10. If he plays well we could have 2 picks in the top 20.
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As I think of it, it plays in our favor somewhat. If Denver doesn't try and move up it could get other teams that are interested in him to move up ahead of Denver The more distant we are between draft picks the more draft capital it will cost them. Maybe far enough between where we can get a 1st next year as well as this year.
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What I like the most about this trade is the fact we lose nothing this year other than a 6th round pick. Since we have an extra 6th we have picks in every round this year to build a team behind him. If we gave up a 2nd and 4th we lost 1/4 of our draft this year. Options in the draft. Take Rhule's preferred OT and build a great line for Darnold to work with. If a QB is available take him as insurance and competition for Darnold Trade down with Chicago or New England or anyone who will trade and pick up an extra 1st in 2022. If Darnold Fails we have 2 first rounders to use to move up and get Howell or the best prospect in the draft. If Darnold is solid we have 2 first to add more help and replace players that we cannot afford. This trade would also offset the lose of the 2nd rounder we gave up for Darnold. Take Pitts or another offensive weapon to help Darnold Solidify our defense with another stud at LB or DB (no D-line worthy of a top 8 pick)
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Trading up to three would leave us with Jones, Fields and Lance. Wilson is going to be gone at 2 to the Jets. Staying at 8 may leave us with one of them. I think they made the right decision on negotiating with the Jets for Darnold. Though many think we gave too much for Darnold we have to remember they wanted a 1st for him. We stood strong and got him for much less, plus we kept most of our draft picks for this year. I am impressed with the negotiations and got him for a fair deal.
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To trash a player that played so well for us over the years because his brother didn't pan out is absolutely insane. He recommended Darnold because he believes that with his work ethic and our coaching staff he can become the player everyone thought a 1st rounder would become. I'd also like to point out that the majority of talking heads on NFL Network, ESPN, Fox and other outlets say that Darnold was ruined by a bad coach and no talent around him. To me this gives me hope that Darnold will be one of the greatest moves we've ever made. I will enjoy watching all the negative Nancies on this forum eat crow when Darnold proves them wrong.