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Let’s see how he does in LA before we call it a bad take

Agreed. Stafford is a spoiled rich brat from oil money in Dallas. He’s physically gifted up the wazoo and his arm talent might be the best in the NFL, but he hasn’t accomplished anything in his time in the NFL and probably doesn’t have that fire in his belly to be great.

You’re great I love you

Vegas knows how bad and inconsistent the Panthers are. This game is a 50/50 toss up the first week of the season.

I don’t think we know enough to say that yet.

Leave it to Mr. Scot to post like he's giving a press conference. You trying to be a head coach with these platitudes? We all know the Panthers should come out and destroy the Jets. They're at home and top to bottom they're the better team. Any kind of loss means there's something broken with this team out of the gate and the fanbase should rightfully be getting pitchforks ready. Last season was miserable enough but losing to the god damned Jets Week 1 is inexcusable.

As much as I'd like to say I don't want to see that happen, I also have a morbid curiosity to watch and participate in that train wreck.

who's that bear

Granted, but like I said earlier in this thread not all losses are created equally. The Panthers hung tough with the eventual Superbowl champion Seahawks in Week 1 of 2013, who were also a playoff team in 2012. Only lost because of a Deangelo Williams fumble. Completely different caliber of loss. The Jets were one of the worst teams in the NFL last year and will not be winning Super Bowl this season.

We’re going to learn a lot about Sam from the first game. The NFL has a cruel sense of humor putting this game Week 1. Just like then they made the Panthers go play the Broncos Week 1 in 2016 after the Super Bowl. I don’t care if Sam doesn’t publicly come out and say he’s extra motivated to win this game. But if he isn’t, and that shows on the field on Sunday, it was a massive mistake to trade for him. Honestly I’m not sure if he is or not. He’s an even keeled guy on the surface and maybe it doesn’t mean anything to him. But I really, really hope it does for the sake of the team.

Apples and oranges. Road loss to a division opponent is not the same as this.

Jake Delhomme straight up called Darnold out in the Jordan and Jake podcast and said he can say that but there's no way it's true. Jake said he was so motivated to beat the Saints in 2003 in his first year with the Panthers because then Saints head coach Jim Haslett had considered him a backup. And he did beat the Saints twice that year. And let's say it is true and Sam doesn't give a sh*t and it's just another game to him If Sam isn't using that as motivation then he might not have what it takes to be a QB in the NFL. The greats always seem to have a chip on their shoulder. Maybe that's why he's sucked ass since he came into the NFL then.

Even if it's the latter and it's a back and forth game, the Panthers are at home and should have the talent and experience to win the game even if it's close. If we see a rookie QB and head coach pull out a last second victory on the Panthers home turf, something that eluded the Panthers all season last year, it's going to be meltdown worthy here on Sunday. It won't be the same feeling as losing a back and forth game to 7 time Superbowl Champion Tom Brady on the road in the final minutes, like the Cowboys did last night. Losses might count the same in the standings, but they are not all created equally.

I mean you can say that, just like Sam Darnold said this is "just another game" despite playing the team that drafted him and where he spent the first 3 years of his career, who traded him away for far less than his original draft value. But we all know it's not true. A loss Week 1 at home to a team the Panthers by all accounts should beat handily would be a disastrous way to start the season.

What should our reaction be? By all accounts, the Panthers should come out and curb stomp the Jets. The Panthers roster is way ahead of the Jets, especially on defense. Almost every single pundit and their grandma is picking the Panthers to win this game. And as many long time Panthers fans know, when everyone is picking the Panthers, they always seem to lose in miserable fashion. The Jets are likely to be one of the worst teams in the NFL again with a talent depleted roster. They have a 1st year head coach and rookie QB. Even though HC Robert Saleh seems legit from his time in San Fran and Wilson is obviously a talented young QB, they're both still inexperienced and this is the Jets we're talking about. The Jets one of if not THE worst franchises in the NFL over the last 50 years. They're a perpetual lesson in what NOT to do to have a winning football team. So let's say the Panthers come out Week 1 and lose to the Jets. I don't really care how, because no matter what happened, a loss is a loss. How should we react?

Watching how quick Tom Brady gets the ball out of his hands in the Tampa/Dallas game last night shows me the blueprint for how Darnold could have a successful future in the NFL. It's probably the only way he has a future. If Joe Brady can dial up the easy completion plays for Darnold and the defense can shut down a rookie QB it should be an easy win. I'll be concerned if they're calling 7 step drops with that O-Line. I won't rule it out because this is the Panthers we're talking about after all.

Well this seems like a bad idea then

Yea the Jets defense knows it'll only take a few pressures and sacks to get Darnold rattled. Panthers O-Line is horrible so McCaffrey gonna need to take pressure off Darnold early with some dump offs.

Can we talk about that blatant no-call on the pushoff by Godwin at the end of the game?

There are other reasons I'm losing interest in the NFL than just strictly how much passing teams are doing now. 1) The games take way too long and the commercial breaks seem to get longer and louder. Actual NFL gameplay is only like 11 minutes total. Compared to MLS which I am getting more and more into, it's a crazy difference. MLS games have commercials only at halftime and it's constant action for 90+ minutes. 2) Accessibility to watch games out-of-market is stupidly cumbersome and expensive. NFL Sunday Ticket is not easy to sign up for unless you have full DirectTV. The NFL basically begs you to stream the games illegally. 3) The safety rules are getting over the top. These ticky tack unnecessary roughness penalties are getting ridiculous. I wanna see guys wreck an unprotected QB again. Holding calls seem to be on the way down though which helps scoring. 4) The NFL finds itself on a precise to either go full NBA social progressive or try to continue pandering to the military/right wing vibes of the past. Colin Kaepernick really did a number on the NFL and owners punished him for it. The NFL fanbase is definitely smaller than it was a few years ago 5) The Panthers have sucked ass since Tepper bought the team.

Elijah Moore gonna be the truth. I wanted the Panthers to draft him in the 2nd round. Donte gonna have to be on his game against him.

I like it so far except I've never liked Selena Gomez and find her trite existence to be annoying.

I think he gets another shot somewhere this season. There's bound to be an injury somewhere along the line on a contending team. What better option than Cam? His vax status is the biggest concern right now.

I bet Brady's hair costs more than Drew's.