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Joey Bosa, Justin Herbert, Penai Sewell, Brian Burns, and Horn for Deshaun Watson and his baggage. That's what we could potentially be giving up. Add in a 3rd rd comp, 2nd, 4th and 6th because that's what we've already given up for QBs that we're going to be the guy. And Watson didn't want to waive his no trade clause until there was nobody else interested. We are his last choice. Makes you wonder if he would even want to stay past his contract or just force his way out of that too.
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Reddick was on a prove it deal. He's not staying. He played for a big contract and hes going to get it. Gilmore was a trade and it doesn't look like he's staying either. He's going to get paid too. Good FAs don't flock to bad teams unless they're overpaid. And in what world do you trade that much for a player and have to hope and pray he doesn't do some stupid poo again that ends up in more lawsuits and criminal investigations? Plus how do we know he will even want to stay after 2 or 3 4-5 win seasons under Rhule. You can't break the bank for a guy with this many question marks not even counting the current allegations and charges.
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How would you move on to filling other holes? With 3rd and later picks? Or the plethora of free agents come to learn at the feet of the master Matt Fhule. Better get ready to renegotiate that contract for 75m a season in 3 years when he wants a new one or else he's leaving. That's if he's even allowed on the field because we all know what Roger Goodell says and what he does are to very different things when it comes to social media pressure. This trade will be worse than the Herschel Walker trade by a long shot.
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Whole lot of Deshaun Watson chatter happening out there
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
Depending on the grand jury, 2 packs of smokes and 50 bucks commissary -
Whole lot of Deshaun Watson chatter happening out there
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
We're going to trade Darnold too but we'll pay all his salary. -
QB situation getting worse for the Panthers.
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
My thought as well. When he was finally able to have roster control it turned to shambles -
I found the path to fix our team
SmokinwithWilly replied to RIPTreyLance's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Loading up to take a shot at a SB run. They have the offense and now their pass rush is going to be scary. If you have the pieces in place, the picks and cap doesn't really matter.
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Kaep can carry a team to the Super Bowl after being out of the league for how long now? Can I have some of what Schefter is smoking?
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At one time Rhule said he was really looking forward to working with Cam. Could be the truth. Could not be. Time will tell.
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Whole lot of Deshaun Watson chatter happening out there
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
If we made the trade for Watson, Darnold would have to be part of it. Otherwise we're going to be fielding a bunch of UDFAs and bottom of the barrel FAs just to fill our roster. We can't have 30% of our cap tied up at the QB position when we have so many holes. -
QB situation getting worse for the Panthers.
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
Ron got better with Gettleman. He was worse with Hurney. I consider Ron a mediocre HC, but still leaps and bounds better than Kelly, Meyer, and other college coaches, including Rhule, that failed spectacularly at the NFL level. Matt Rhule is heading towards Bill O'Brian level as HC/GM in a hurry. Boneheaded trades, terrible contracts to JAGs and one hit wonders, putting players out of position, and a system that works 1000% that results in losing. Right now, Ron is the better coach. But I still don't want either want of them as HC of the Panthers. -
Tepper hired a private investigator to look into Deshaun Watson
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
No disagreement from me about starting somewhere. Also in the mix is do you think Rhule is the one to pull this off? Judging by the moves made in the second season I don't think that he was or ever could be. And also from what we know, Rhule/Tepper or steering this ship, not our GM. How much confidence do you have in Rhule to get this right. Currently I have zero and that doesn't even include any legal issues. This feels like a desperate move by a desperate coach and owner trying to save themselves. -
Tepper hired a private investigator to look into Deshaun Watson
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
The Rams are acquiring players that want to come play for a shot at a SB. Watson would be coming to the same situation he just forced himself out of in Houston. We would have to give up 3 1st rounders. His contract expires in 4 years which means we would have to extend him before it ends if he would agree to it. He's already shown he doesn't want to play for a bad team, so would he agree to stay here or move to a SB contender? There's a lot to factor in besides just draft picks. -
Tepper hired a private investigator to look into Deshaun Watson
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
Bucs have Godwin franchised right now. He could easily be part of a trade to Houston. He's due 19m this season and is an elite WR. Perfect receiver to replace Hopkins, and makes cap room. -
Tepper hired a private investigator to look into Deshaun Watson
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
And what happens when Goodell caves to social media pressure, because we know he will because he has. Look at Ray Rice. The NFL and Goodell did nothing until pressure forced him to. It's about image and Goodell will protect that image. What happens when he puts Watson on the exempt list or suspends him for multiple years? We're talking about a trade for a guy that could be suspended indefinitely and that price tag is 3 1sts 2nds players and the cap hit all without a guarantee he ever steps foot on the field again. -
What cap space are we going to have if we are seriously making a push for Watson? We will have almost 70m tied up this year in QB contracts.
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Tepper hired a private investigator to look into Deshaun Watson
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
They would have to be the best PR firm in history. Michael Jackson was never convicted of anything and settled his civil suits out of court. How many us would have let our 10 year old sons go over to his ranch to hang out? No matter how you twist or spin this, unless Watson is cleared criminally and civilly, trading for him is going to put off a lot of people. This is a monumentally terrible idea. -
QB situation getting worse for the Panthers.
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
We sign The Golden Calf of Bristol to be our 3rd string TE/QB. -
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10 year vet. Best we can do is a 5th round pick and that will get wiped by FA.
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Last year it was possible that 4 QBs could go in the first 4 picks. There's no chance of that this year. 2 completely different QB crops. 3 1st round picks was the price tag to move up. This year it's going to be nowhere near that and teams are still looking for other options. The demand isn't as high for this class.
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QB situation getting worse for the Panthers.
SmokinwithWilly replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
We would probably lose in a Blue/Black game.