SmokinwithWilly

I'm curious with the recent studies about turf and soft tissue injuries if that's going to start affecting FA choices. Available players have more earning potential and grass favors less injury risk.

Bingo. The Rams were trying to win another Super Bowl. They thought Burns was the piece to get them a significant advantage paired with Donald and were willing to pay a ridiculous price to do it because they understand that 2 Lombardis grant a lot of forgiveness. This team needed to begin a full rebuild this off-season but instead decided half ass it, try and make a run in a terrible division just so they could say they made the playoffs before getting blown out against better teams. This team's behavior is mirroring the owner. Impatient and rash. Now we have a new rookie QB, very little offensive talent, an offensive scheme that plays to our olines weakness, and a defense that's got more holes than a slice of Swiss cheese. Paying Burns on a 4 or 5 year big deal doesn't help the team because it's going to take at least half that trying to fill all the holes to at least be marginal. We traded away the assets needed to build around a rookie QB for reasonably quick success. I'd like Burns to stay on a deal that's similar to the level of production he's given. 7-10m per season is a lot extra when you factor in all the players we're going to need just to be competitive. This isn't on Burns. It's squarely on the FO fugging up this entire situation and this is what we're left with. Fitts needs to be shown the door once deadline has passed. He's done enough damage already. And for fugs sake, get a team president in here to get Tepper and his impulse control issues out of the front office.

If we could somehow swap him for TMJ I'd be happy.

He was considered a TE at ND.

Tremble wasn't terrible yesterday. I think a lot of people forget he was a blocking TE that caught a few passes here and there in college. The passing game was never his forte. It was always something he was going to need to work on and develop. Too bad work on and develop can be said of pretty much every pick under the Rhule era.

Some of my jersey's came from Marshall's. Got my Steven Davis, Mills and Smitty jerseys all for under 20 bucks each.

I think people are just tired of damn near everything Fitts does going wrong. No faith that this will go right either, no matter if it's a trade or a deal. We're going to get fugged either way.

That's why I said Fitts and Tepper are the issue. It's just what I would have done playing Monday morning GM. Either embrace the rebuild or don't, but we were never drop a QB in and playoff run ready. That's the frustrating part. This entire FO seems to be blind to basic things even guys on a message board are seeing.

Most of the guys like me who think we should have traded him last year realized then that we should have been going into full rebuild mode. I said it then, those 1sts could have been valuable in trying to trade for the 1st pick if we had chosen to do so. We wouldn't have needed to ship off DJ. We could have shipped off a Rams 2025 1st instead. Burns is gonna get paid. That's pretty much a done deal, or at least should be. Do I think he's worth 30m per season as an edge rusher that's a liability against the run? No. But what I think doesn't really matter. Personally, if I'm being honest, Luvu has been more of a defensive force than Burns going back to last year. Tepper and this FO have been shitting the bed for the past few seasons and we have very little to show for it. Picks, like players, are a commodity and they all have value. Do I think we could have done more with 2 1sts, a 2nd and 30m in cap space and a competent front office? Absolutely. Too bad we lack the latter.

If only anyone could have predicted the Rams would be in bad shape and those picks could be really good...

Still won the week.

This is why you don't give big contracts to RBs behind the best oline in football. It's fools gold.

Said it a few weeks ago and got poo'd for it. Luvu just makes more plays on the field.

Pass blocking wasn't his strength going into the draft. He was a run mauler that was going to need to learn to pass block at the pro level. Offensive philosophy has changed from power run to complex blocking schemes. Setting up failure

Icky was the least pass pro ready LT of the top 3 in the draft. He's struggling. Why is this a shock? Cross was the most pass pro ready but we went for the most athletic mauler. This isn't that surprising.

This is how rich people do cosplay

A lot.

I'm starting CJ and Pierce in fantasy this week. Too juicy a match up to pass up.

Actually we should probably start with someone as a team president before letting Tepper hire another coach.

I'm not for firing him either. We made that mistake last year. We aren't winning the division. We may not win a game. Take our lumps, get the 33rd pick, chalk it up to another Tepper FUBAR, and go get Ben Johnson.

0-6 and we're grasping at straws

It's been a long day and my numbers for the 9ers were off by a year for draft position, I own that. but the overall premise is still valid. The corrected numbers are 1200 in 21, 800 and 640 for a total of 2640. Minus the 1350 we paid with our 9 leaves 1290 remaining or a 10th spot value. So we would need to finish 10th this year to break even with the 9ers 3 1sts offer.

Actually it's not. SF gave up the 21st(800) in 21, 29th(640) in 22, and 23" is YTD but lets give it a value of 24th(740), for a total of 2180 according to the trade value chart. Unless something drastically changes, the Panthers will end up with a top 3 pick, the lowest of which is valued at 2200. Take out the 9th we already gave up, value 1350, and we need to finish no worse than 20th best team in the league to break even with the SF trade for Lance and that doesn't include the 2 2nds or DJ Moore we sent or the 22' 3rd they sent. While the trade value chart isn't perfect, it does provide some perspective on the value of picks. But to say that the 49ers 3 1sts hold more value than our 2 1sts isn't accurate.

If we look much improved on offense, it's going to be hard to fire Frank, only because I think it would be a lot to ask to take over as HC and still be OC/DC depending who was promoted. End of season, yeah. Move on. If it's a blowout, still gotta keep Frank and try to get the highest 2nd round pick we can by letting him run this train off a bridge. We're going to need all the help we can get. Won't make Chicago picking at 1 any better though.

We had in our possession a 23' 1st round pick (9) and a 24' 1st round pick. Now we don't. Where did they go? We had to give away our rights to them in order to acquire the rights to Chicago's pick 1. Call it an exchange or a swap or whatever you want. Saying that we gave up our rights to our 23' 1st round pick as part of a package to acquire pick 1 is 100% factually correct.