WUnderhill

Keep trying I’m sure you’ll get it eventually. Reading is a skill worth developing.

The cupboards aren’t bare…yet. We aren’t 5 years away from competing…yet. This team is on a razors edge. Do it the right way and we can be competing in 2-3 years. Do it the wrong way and we’re going to be having this same conversation in 3 years. 1. Trade Mccaffrey. Offer to pay the rest of his salary this year and try to get a late 2nd rounder from a contender. At the very least a 3rd rounder. 2. Make sure Wilks knows we need to evaluate our WHOLE roster in game time situations. We need to give our next HC as much film to go off as possible for all of our players. It sucks Wilks has been dealt this shitty hand, but find some other way to evaluate him as a HC besides his W/L record this year. 3. Be VERY cautious with Baker and Darnold's injuries (and for that matter any other injuries). PJ can start as long as possible. 4. Hopefully with this approach and just being a bad team in the first place, we are bad enough to get the #1 draft pick, while also trying to win with the players we have on the field. I don't agree with asking coaches and players to try to lose, but there are ways to essentially tank without doing that and while also getting some productive things done this year in looking towards the future. 5. Have a coach specifically dedicated to Matt Corral and his development, rehab, etc. if you don't already. Time to reach into those pockets Tepper. Corral looked lost in the little we got to see of him, we need to know if he can do this pretty quickly next season. He should be getting fed from a fire hose mentally all season, and when he's ready physically you should have a juco team or something on payroll just to get him practice reps in a pro style offense. 6. Time to reach into those pockets even more, Tepper. Our scouting department should be the highest paid in the NFL this year. They need to be burning the candle at both ends during this crucial time, and we need to make sure we have the absolute best scouts we can possibly have right now, especially for QBs. Bring in special consultants if you have to. Heck, have Macadoo start looking at the QBs in next years draft if you value his opinion. It’s more important than what he is doing on Sundays. 7. Hire the right HC. It can be a defensive guy, but he sure as hell better be able to wow you with the caliber of OC and QB coach he is bringing with him, and you better be damn sure that he’ll keep that caliber of offensive mind on staff if those ones leave for HC gigs. 8. If we get the #1 overall and we’ve done our homework, use the opportunity to get our QB of the future on a team friendly contract for the next 5 years. This will be our best time to re-sign other young and productive players like Burns, Chinn, etc. This will be our best opportunity to become a consistently competitive team while we have a young stud QB on a rookie deal. Let him and Corral compete. Let Corral start the season next year. DO NOT spend #1 on a QB and put him out there until we have an OL that can consistently protect him AND he is good enough diagnosing blitzes and calling his protections at the LOS. 9. Draft OL until you think we don’t need any more OL, then draft more. Get the best center in next year’s draft to go with our young QBs. We should be able to get that at the top or end of the second round (with the pick we get for Mccaffrey in this hypothetical). 10. Win.

I haven’t been on the fire Fitterer bandwagon and am generally open to the idea of him getting to hire a head coach…but if he wants to hire Dan Quinn get him the fug outta here. I get you were together in Seattle, but come on man.

There was NO music in Charlotte before Tepper, ever All hail Tepper, Charlotte’s great savior.

Well of course it doesn’t guarantee success, absolutely nobody is saying it does.

So the number 1 pick has no more value than the number 5 pick or some random 6th round pick just because not all the best QBs come from the number 1 pick. That’s a dumb argument to make. Ok let’s have the equally stupid bust conversation. Guess we should never pick a 1st rd QB again because some of them bust.

My god this is logical nonsense. Let’s just trade all our picks for 6th rounders then.

You’re right we tanked for Luck and Luck stayed in school so we got Cam. Then the Colts tanked for Luck and got Luck. Worked out about as well as you can ask it to for both teams. Keep up with your revisionist history though. We want the option to evaluate all the QBs and pick the one we think will be best, not be left with the one we like second or third best and then hope our talent evaluation sucks or we get lucky. Just because the best QB in the class is not always the first picked is not a good reason to not want the option to pick first.

This is an odd question considering how we got the greatest QB in franchise history.

Lol, “per me”. What a twat.

I swear if these dumbasses hire Dan Quinn I’m done.

Why? His hubris is what led to this mess. Him coming in thinking the Panthers were just a Matt Rhule away from the Super Bowl, tossing aside the franchises best ever QB, causing the franchises best ever defensive player to retire, constantly making win-now moves thinking he was the guy to turn Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold, etc. into franchise guys. His constant and dreadful misevaluation of the roster, fueled by his arrogance thinking he was just going to come in with all his college yes men and be the next Belichik, has set us back further than when he arrived. He could have come in, tried his hardest, and just been bad, but humble enough to bring in NFL coaches, respect team leaders, and not fug our future. But he was worse than that. You can’t even look to him and say he’s some high character pillar of the community like Rivera. Rhule will not be missed anywhere.

Wooooo!

I’d hate for him to make a rash decision after 3 seasons of losing.

This whole forum is just 5 people arguing with each other and all their alt accounts.

Just keep it. It’ll be funny in like 10 years when we start winning again.

Jerry Richardson was essentially fired when he was forced to sell the team. Now we got this yankee doodle bitch ass with no ties to the Carolinas who will probably move the team to London or whatever city the NFL wants first opportunity he gets.

So do Alabama QBs, and those are the top 2 as of right now. Point is, we need the #1 pick. It would at the very least be attractive to potential coaching hires.

PJ is good for like 1 win a season so I’d honestly rather not. Stroud or bust. Seen enough of short QBs.

Lol if you think Garropolo looks any better under this coaching staff. They’ve proven it with 5 different QBs.

Lol ikr, he was drafted with Burns before even Rhule got here, much less Fitterer. Classic Hurney 2nd rd bust.

I’m sure there’s plenty of blame to go around, but if you’re an NFL O-Lineman and you can’t pancake a guy who is jumping and throwing his hands up in the air, then I got a problem with you.

I don’t think it matters who the OC or QB is. We’ve had a different QB every year, including Cam and PJ we’ve had I think 5 different starting QBs, and this is our 3rd OC if you count the interim when Brady was fired. The offense has been not just bad, but unwatchable, ever since Rhule got hired. Rhule is the common factor. Baker and Macadoo have actually had success in the NFL, Rhule has never. That’s why it’s so important that we just go ahead and fire Rhule because we need to be able to evaluate our team apart from him. While he’s here his stench is on everything.

We’ll get just enough to not get one of the top QBs.

And Hurney reportedly loved Herbert. Too bad Brady and Rhule reportedly loved Bridgewater and went into the draft thinking we had a QB.