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Seems like it’s getting pretty bad everywhere. Doesn’t help that there’s different rules everywhere and places where it’s more dangerous to follow the actual law. I forget the name of the highway around Miami but I’ve driven it a few times and if you don’t go like 90 you’re in actual danger and causing a hazard for others. Or some places at 4-way stop lights U-turn yields to right turns and other places right turns yield to u-turns and now everybody is confused every time and it’s a cluster fug. And then there is zero requirement for anybody to prove any sort of competence on an ongoing basis to drive.

I don’t make anything close to what these athletes do and have contemplated it myself. I really never understand when I see the photos/videos of some of these top paid guys rolling into camp, game days, etc. personally driving their own vehicles.

Lest “they should hire drivers” keep being subjected to absolutely insane interpretations, here’s a few thoughts I have on the subject: 1. There is value in a professional who is better trained and more emotionally detached. 2. These athletes bodies are their livelihood and they should mitigate risk wherever possible and/or reasonable. For somebody making as much as Jaycee Horn, Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, I personally think hiring a driver would be a reasonable expense. 3. There is value in riding in the back of a car designed for such purposes, as opposed to the drivers seat where you can get forcibly hit in the face, chest, shoulders, and arms by a drivers air bag during a minor collision. Those air bags are designed to save lives during major collisions but they can easily do more harm than good during minor ones, especially when a torn rotator, fractured orbital, cracked ribs, concussion, any of the common airbag injuries could be career altering for these guys. 4. It shouldn’t need to be said that nobody thinks hiring a driver makes anybody immune to car accidents.

I said hiring a driver makes them immune to car crashes?

Nothing. What about hiring a pilot makes you immune to plane crashes?

In what seems like a yearly occurrence at this point, yet another important Panthers player has been injured in a car accident. Canales addressed it with the media and says stitches in Jaycee’s thumb but he is otherwise ok. Day to day: will not participate in practice today or play in the first preseason game against the Browns. I have never understood why these guys don’t hire drivers.

Not even remotely close what are you talking about.

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While I don’t believe there has been a more overvalued receiver amongst Panther fans since David Gettis, I think I’d want a little more from the Jags to do this. I do like Coker but I believe his ceiling is pretty close to where he’s already at, which is why he went undrafted.

I mean he’ll get humbled at some point and realistically speaking a top 10 pick in his 4th year vs. a rookie should be capable of doing that. He’s got the right attitude though. I’m rooting for both and hope Princely is right and he’s just THAT good and Ickey is great, too.

This was like 2 pages of mostly talk about safeties and then you started spiraling because someone questioned your awful take, posting multiple times in a row before anybody even responded to you. Is this about some guy saying something on Twitter or about Princely crying in a corner because Canales “crushed his confidence” by answering a question? It’s hard to get a read when you’re making back to back posts all complaining about different things. All 32 defenses have the same rule every year. Sometimes it gets broken, then the coaches coach. I’ve seen coaches flip out on Hard Knocks over it, fights break out, etc. This is very basic stuff and nothing new and has no effect on how hard a defense plays. Nobody is destroying Princely or unhappy with the effort. It was a coachable moment that could have ruined the season and very fortunately did not. That’s it. I’m sure the team has moved on and this thread would have likely moved on as well if you weren’t so zealous in your hatred of our starting QB.

Lol some people would rather see the starting QB injured than see a 3rd round pick get coached.

Just Disney buying everything what else is new.

Again, it may have nothing to do with Bryce Young. The coaches are thinking about the whole roster. Many guys have said how much different this off-season has been not having to start from square 1 with a playbook, language, etc. You’re talking about bringing in a guy to lead the 2nd team offense who they now have to spend time teaching. Every team is different. This team is young and developing across the board and trying to find some positive continuity. With how Morgan and Canales have approached everything I’m fairly certain they considered all possibilities and decided it was best for the overall team to roll with Dalton for now. They value whatever it is they feel Dalton brings over the extremely low probability of whatever washed out, journey man, reclamation project developing into a franchise QB. You and I have no idea why and aren’t there in the meetings, but it’s clear that the FO sees this young failed franchise QB project as less likely to pan out than you do.

To everybody who wants some random “developmental” QB as a backup, consider that the coaches may like Dalton as a backup for reasons that have nothing to do with Bryce Young. I’m sure it’s helpful having multiple QBs in practice who can run the offense and know where the ball is supposed to go when. Time that coaches don’t have to spend developing another QB when we have basically a whole roster to develop is valuable time. I guarantee Dalton is more helpful to developing our 2nd team offense than some random 6th round pick. That’s guys like Jalen Coker who are benefiting.

Hope not. Still think Icky would be better at RT or G.

Did you read my post? I was talking about what the Cowboys would be willing to trade for a fully guaranteed contract may have been less than what we got. It’s nice to say “just draft better”. I wish the Panthers drafted 7 hall of famers ever year. But since that isn’t the reality, and the reality is the Panthers have had trouble hitting on 2nd rounders their entire history, I’d still like the team have whatever flexibility possible if they bust, and hopefully we also draft better and never have to worry about it.

This. People say it doesn’t matter, but it does. If Mingo’s contract was fully guaranteed, the trade compensation may have been completely different. Imagine getting a 6th round pick instead of a 4th. Does that make a difference? Imagine nobody wants to trade for him at all and we have to cut him outright. It matters.

I feel like it’s been too long since anybody said it, so I’ll refresh the sentiment once again: fug the Texans.

You forgot the goat: He Hate Me.

Wish I had any faith in the CO to do a good job with this. They hated Cam. Will never forget them publishing the whiny letter from that dumb, sore-loser, Tennessee Titans karen. The paper did not stand behind that team. I’ll still give it a shot but this just feels inauthentic given the source.

I didn’t say it was new, I said it was silly to put one blanket statement over everybody, and if you insist on calling them lotto picks then it’s dumb to act like they are all the exact same odds, and that you have to apply the logic to everybody. And you keep leaving out my whole point about this “proven 1000 yd receiver”. 1000 yd receiver who’s 31yr old, been on the downswing since 2022, and coming off a major knee injury. And I’ve talked about 2 Panthers RBs and Tmac from the word go so you make up a list of 3 that only includes 1 of them when the list in question is not even a ranking of “big 3’s”. I mean you are clearly just ignoring everything I’m saying and picking whatever makes the Panthers look worst just to die on whatever hill you’re on so you do you. The list is dumb, I’m sorry you like it more than I do.

You didn’t really address the point, just like you ignored the point about the RBs initially, and saying “they are all lotto picks” is just a really silly reduction because you could say that about literally any player rookie or vet every snap, every game, every year. It is well known that different positions have different hit rates, and I would argue different types of prospects within position groups as well, and that hit rates change the further down in the draft you go. Everybody knows QB is different and that, for example, first round OL have a really high success rate. Using your lotto ticket analogy…again…you are saying a lotto ticket with a 1 in 100 chance of hitting is the exact same thing as a lotto ticket with a 1 in 2 chance of hitting (this is an example, don’t take these odds literally). The point was he is no more of a lotto ticket than the 31yr old receiver coming off a major knee injury, and in my opinion he is better odds with a higher potential “jackpot”. Saying one player is an “lotto ticket” while another isn’t is just not sound logic. You have no idea who will break out, regress, get injured, etc. There are safer bets than others, that’s all. I don’t think Diggs is a safe bet and even if he was, weighing him over all of the Panthers WRs plus 2 1k rushers is just dumb. You can disagree if you want. The list is stupid.

I don’t view Tmac as a lotto ticket. Size and hands translate, this isn’t some speed guy like John Ross getting over drafted based on a 40 time. Now, the 31yr old coming off a major knee injury, that’s like a $10 scratcher with a $5k jackpot. The list sucks.