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THAT STAT IS DISGUISTING lmaooooo... Smdh... that's gotta look good on the resume. Tepper...the analytic guy is...is he blind to this ... Also, we are 10-25 in the Rhule era.

Nah, after watching last year .... Baker didnt lose us this game. Game planning and coaching has did. First of all take away the two fumbles on our first two posessions ... we aren't talking about this. Chubba should not be a returner IMO. Wtf is going on with some of these routes??? The Oline is not at all what I imagined. Corbett's and Elf are not cutting it. Ickey gets a pass as he's still developing. I counted 5 drops. And the run D looks vastly different as did Derrick Brown. Get McCaffrey more involved in the passing game. This feels like Checkers vs Chess. P.S.. The Jets beat the Brown P.S.S. The schedule only gets harder.

Gotta admit I'm not interested in any other team except Carolina and who we play each week... that's who I research. My question is: Where exactly is that Cleveland Defensive Line ranked across the NFL? Oline? I'm just looking for any avenue of optimism for the rest of the season. So I'm hoping any reply says they're top 1-5 in both regards. I'd feel a little better about what I did and didnt see last Sunday.

Hell I'm just hoping they run him lol. That first half usuage was so horrible I thought it was trolling. From what I've seen in my Rhule experience...on Sunday the exact opposite will occur. 4:1 run:pass distribution. You can take that to the bank. Heavy McCaffrey usage.

All I got from reading that was a strong feeling we're going to have a repeat performance. Run defense will be a little improved but Saquon will still have over 100+ yards. I think Snow's scheme only works when the pressure is being heavy. But when it does work it's really efficient. With what we currently have on the roster, the ONLY way to combat us getting 200+ yards ran against us every week would be Offense. Score as much as possible as early as possible and control the TOP by a wide margin. Keep them off the field basically. I'm still amazed noone has scored a passing TD against us in the first quarter in 20+ games...including preseason. And only about 4 rushing TD's. If we could extend that trend even 50% into the 2nd, 3rd and 4th this would b an entirely diff convo. But It just so happens our D is currently running a gauntlet vs physical RBs. Chubb starts the bleeding.... then Saquon...then Kamara/Ingram...then James Conner... (one week rb bye week @ 49ers)...only to run into Fournette the next week. SO ...If week one is any indication we have a LONG road ahead. And that's just taking the first 6 weeks into account. Or maybe this whole run defense thing is being took outta proportion...maybe. But I can atleast say I saw adjustments on Offense... Defense not so much.

To be honest, I feel like we just couldn't bring his big ass down. We really have a problem wrapping up. If it wasnt a one arm tackle we completely whiffed on more than a few occasions. I'd be interested in finding out how many yards after contact he ended up with. I remember having this same mind frame after playing Kamara his first year. We did end up stopping him the next game but the roster was vastly different ... Silver lining is, it's only week 1 and everything we have issues with is correctable. We have the talent but can we put it together.

At this point is it even possible for worse results with the same 11 men?.

Good point

Not sure if I'm 100% right but if my memory bank is somewhat correct ...YGM was a highly rated prospect coming out...only favored by Chaisson and Chase Young. Pretty sure there were a few predicting he might have even been a late first rounder. We got him in the 2nd..top 100. He has the size but although he did get to QB at Penn State he was probably graded better as a run defender...as was Derrick Brown which is even more frustrating considering our situation. He's definitely underperforming, from my expectations anyway. Hopefully his increased playing time will translate to better numbers as he progresses. The more I look at the line... the more I shake my head.. Burns(1st)- Ioannidis(5th) - Brown (1st) - YGM (2nd) That's alot of draft capital. Returns aren't satisfying. Furthermore... Thompson (1st) - Wilson (4th) - Luvu (UDFA) Horn(1st)/Henderson(1st) - Jackson(2nd) Chinn (2nd)- Woods (6th) I will say Woods and Chinn make a great tandem. But hopefully YGM hasn't reached his peak. Definitely a huge dropoff from Reddick.

This!!!! Same thing last year with OT ...I remember it was about three who were unmistakable upgrades to Erving ... and atleast a 6 upgrades for Jordan at Guard but we ig'd it off. If im Fitterer, I'm looking HARD at DT, DE, and MLB. We all know this wont happen ofcourse

I like pff ...but nah ...not today.. Brown...Elf... ?? Chinn... wth

THIS!!!!!! ....underrated post. And it's weird because we've been putting personnel in place for three years just to emphasize getting to the QB fast. Yet we couldn't get to the QB at all. Which would be easier to digest if we could stop the run but we couldn't do that either. We jumped out the window for Athletes and SPEED but didn't target power. The scheme just highlights our deficiency. We have the reverse problem of what we had with Rivera.. 3-4 guys in 4-3 spots. Then you add in the fact that our linebackers and corners often miss alot of tackles....its just all bad. IMO ...We've been shaky at run defense since Kuechly retired. The day he left our Run D literally went down atleast a dozen spots. The man was just that good at reading the field, getting other players in position, shedding blocks, etc. Answer: A little bit of everything is the problem. And we've got Barkley on the menu for next week. P.S...STOP dropping our DE's into coverage plz. I should never see Haynes Jr vs any eligible receiver.

IMO, Horn had a couple penalties but he also arguably had the best performance of all our corners today. CJ with the blatent panic reaction PI and Donte allowing Donovan Peoples to grab about a half dozen contested catches without a deflection. As for Ickey, it's his first NFL game and he just happens to be blocking what a future HOF talent. Give him time, if his pass pro can catch up to his run blocking we'll be more than fine. Have you seen our non existent pressure DLine?????... that's who he practices against. It's too early for a quality verdict on either. Combined they've played 5 games counting today. If we're talking draft busts I think the fanbase as a whole has found that answer: Derrick Brown Now our first round defensive tackle has been extremely disappointing. He's big for no reason basically. That's the same thing I used to say about Ian Thomas. We do need SERIOUS help at DT and DE. Not to mention MLB. Fix that and we fix our run defense enormously. Letting Reddick leave was an identifiable wrong decision in hindsight. Ironically by not paying for it we're going to pay for it all season long.

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Nah I'd have to say DE. LB: Shaq, Luvu, Littleton, Wilson, Smith DE: Burns, YGM, Haynes, Barno Even w

He'll end up on the PS if he's eligible. I think he has a high ceiling...just not quite as high as Stanley Thomas Oliver's according to our coaching staff. STO is also pretty good at ST. Speaking of which, I think that's the only justifiable reason Chandler and Franklin are still here imo. These two and Rhule are so attached I get'em mixed up. Side notes: Shi Smith should have made Robert's expendable. Lavishka definitely upgrades the WR depth. Our DE depth on one side, weight wise, is paper thin lol. We have four DE's as of right now. Three on the right with Burns being the heaviest of the three...yeah that might be a problem down the road. Not alot of power but at least we'll be fast...smh P.S. Zlystra, Barnes, Lovett, Kirkwood, or Wright will end up a Patriot.

Lol, so he basically picked him based on word of mouth. That's a little concerning. I do remember that weight statement afterwards though. On the bright side, I do think there is a strong possibility he'd wouldn't get poached from our PS.

To be fair though, from most reports Deonte did look impressive at the senior bowl practices iirc. And dude allowed only a half sack and 1 pressure his entire last year in the SEC at "Alabama". For him to almost undrafted after those accomplishments speaks volumes. From everything I've seen, he actually has parts of his game that could translate into making him a useable OG. More specifically the way he opens lanes up and his hustle to the 2nd level. His pass protection needs alot of help at this point. That's a FACT. I do think we might cut him in favor of May's if it comes to it. I'm just not a fan of giving up on 2nd year players that are still developing. I just don't know where it's not clicking for him. The Greg Little effect.... Us actually coaching at the senior bowl should have given us the leg up on player evaluations. We did walk away with Shi Smith though so we didn't totally blow that opportunity.

I was a little suprised Luvu was the MLB. I assumed Littleton would have been. When Shaq returns between him, Luvu, Wilson, Littleton and Smith we should be fine at LB as long as they stay healthy. The corners are deep with Jackson, Horn, and CJ, etc.. I expect CJ to get picked on early on. That was the unit I thought might be the best on D BUT the safety pairing of Chinn and Woods have the potential to be one of the best. Only thing I'm worried about is that Dline. But IF Derrick Brown plays every week like he played last night we'll be more than fine. I'm just trying not to overreact based on the competition we played. But still, that's an an NFL team...a damn good one at that. There depth should be lightyears ahead of ours. Bottom line, my ideal lineup from what I've seen would be Luvu-Shaq-Smith (if he improves his tackling). Watching YGM with Smith lined up behind him made me smile ...then the sack came

I thought it was CJ Saunders until he got hurt. Cant lie Shi has probably surpassed Marshall

Isn't Bozeman the same guy that only missed like 1 game in 3-4 years? Not too concerned.

I can't say much about ranks but I will say Wilks and Campen should be regarded as high quality assistants. I hesitate to put McAdoo on the list but he's a pretty solid OC.. again... go back and watch our 2015 game or even the highlights vs the Giants. Adjustments shouldn't be a problem after the 2nd quarter. The execution is another subject. And I have to admit the unit that impressed me the most with its growth so far (only a one game sample) was hands down the ST department. Chris Tabor is proving to be a good move by our FO. I'm just getting familiar.

I picked that up too. He definitely pulled away a couple times. I still can't understand why Jordan is starting with the other options available.

I think they're positioning Baker to start under the assumption he looks good today. Then they'd place Darnold with the 1s at Caspers house under the assumption he's going to be shook... Competition over. And I think we have a joint practice lined up with the Patriots so both of them might sit out the game like we did last season after joint practice. I think they've always known who the starter was they just played into the competition storyline to enforce the "every job is earned" and the "QB transparency and fair shake" narrative they've been trying to drill into our heads every presser.

Wtf.... dude is an alien. He really went 7 years out ?? That's crazy. We need a player on the roster with this cheat code. That's some Kuechly level memory. Very impressed. Makes me wonder how Rhule would fair with a similar set of questions ....lmaoo