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Our 4th went to the Jets in the Darnold trade which was 2022 2nd, 2022 4th, 2021 6th. Our pick this year was the Rams pick they traded to Houston who traded it to us during the draft last year. After comp picks its allllll the way down to 137.

Players would never stop it. Also protects their game checks from suspensions.

Worth noting the Panthers now have the 2nd most cap space in the NFL at 34 million trailing only Indy who's at 39 million. Id wager some more moves coming down the pipeline today.

I saw that. Hurt my soul. Pretty much guarantees Robby is here for the next 2 years and we're almost certainly not trading him unless someone parts with like a 2nd rounder. This move feels like a head scratcher to me. This is one I would have steered away from. Robbys contract actually doesn't look that bad after seeing some of the nonsense getting tossed around in FA right now and we had an easy out in case he further regressed this season. Odd move for sure.

Assuming the players restructured play out the length of their contracts and aren't cut/waived or traded we won't add any dead money. None of the restructures have added dummy or void years like the Saints do. This year we're paying Paradis and Reddick for void years but looking ahead quickly at 2023 I dont see any on Spotrac.

legit lold. That got me. The memes from the past few days have been a great distraction. I'm sure the pain will set in come August but for now I dont even care.

Current preference: Baker Cam + Willis @ 6 Trade back for Howell Tank with Darnold Jameis/Mariota Will Grier PJ Walker Matt Moore Jimmy G

I'm only disappointed we won't get to see Burns plant him twice a year until 2023 since he'll get suspended all next year. Oh and like Jeremy said. He clearly is now 100% guilty of any and all past present and future allegations. Now let's open that checkbook up to Armstead.

Darnold had 2 years of control left (one of them fairly cheap) and that relationship wasn't openly soured. Sure we all knew they were taking Wilson at 2 to replace him but it wasn't a public spat like whats unfolded in Cleveland. Baker has 1 year of control left playing on the 5th year option then will be up for a new contract. Hes coming off season ending surgery (to the non throwing shoulder, I'm not worried about it) and there is no way he plays again in Cleveland the way things have unfolded. I think we're looking at a future conditional 4th here. I'd do a 3rd if they'd take Sam in a swap. Maybe even a pick swap from 6 to 13 with Baker and Sam swapping teams too. I have to say the more I think about this the more I like this option. We've at least seen big time throws from Baker we haven't seen from someone like Jimmy G. He's got more of an attitude/swagger like a Cam and isn't afraid to be a vocal leader - Something we have sorely missed on this team.

Honestly hope that the offer never gets leaked and save some face with the team claiming jt was just draft capital offered so you don't have anyone get upset like Baker in Cleveland. Hand Armstead a blank check, resign Gilmore, trade a late round pick for Baker Mayfield and take BPA or trade down for your QB of the future while amassing some additional picks.

Baker Mayfield is a big reason the Browns aren't the Browns anymore. I imagine he ends up in Indy but itd be nice to have a legit starting NFL QB again.

Yes. I dont hold this past season against him. He really should have been IRd but gutted it out and played through it like Cam in 18. That sells with your team. He would immediately be the best QB we've fielded in 7 years. If DW does chose NO draft a LT at 6, sign Bakers old center and this is a playoff team. Leverage is gone for Cleveland and he's in the last year of his deal so we're looking at a fairly cheap option. I'm not parting with anything higher than a 4th next year or 5th this year. Ideally you swap Darnold/Baker plus a pick. My only hesitancy would be that he's due for a contract next season and whether he's going to want Josh Allen money or Kirk Cousins money remain to be seen. Could always go the franchise tag route for a couple seasons. Worst case, he flames out or gets injured and we're picking top 10 again and trade the same picks we would have to draft a rookie next year.

If we go that route... Next years 4. The 49ers fumbled that so bad. Market is all but gone for him if the Colts don't want him (which appears to be they don't based on what's come out today) Rather go Willis or LT and tank w/ Darnold for next years QB class

Don't quote me on this but I feel like I remember reading the bills offered their 3rd and Beasley during the combine. Thats when the reports we wanted a 1st + player came from. Also worth noting the media in NY are under the impression Saquon is only garnering interest for a conditional 5th that could turn into a 4th. Pretty far fall from grace.

Depends if he's actually meeting with the Falcons tomorrow or not. You've seen Verge say today was the day. You've seen its a 2 horse race. Now we've seen 2 more teams enter into thjs at the 11th hour. I do think it's a bit absurd to not have a ticking clock here on this one but could also see not wanting to push Watson or rush him if you just sat there with him and your pitch was more or less "we will worship the ground you walk on"

Theres zero chance it costs a 2nd AND a 4th to essentially dump Darnolds contract. Osweiler had 3 years and 54 million left on his contract at a time when the salary cap was 50 million lower than it is today... and he was traded for a 2nd and 6th with a 4th coming back to Houston. Darnold has one year left at the same AAV. A 6th is probably what it would cost on the expensive side to dump that contract. Hell, we dumped Teddy with 2 years and 40 million and actually got back a 6th. This notion that its going to cost a 2nd and 4th to dump one year of Darnold is absurd. If that was the case the Panthers would just keep him as a sunk cost. They're not going to keep sinking future assets into him when he will not be a Panther regardless in 12 months.

Armstead is the big one for me. With Brown getting the tag in KC, hes pretty much the only premium option at LT. There are injury concerns for sure but when hes on that field theres few better. Fact it hurts the Saints is even better. At least one of the guards. Doesnt have to be Scherff but one starting guard with BC and Brown battling for the last spot could give us a nasty OL. Outside of that Leighton Vander Esch could be a solid pick up. Again, injury concerns, but the potential is there and hes young. Id take a flyer here if the money/years are right. After that I'd like to see Gilmore back and a guy like Braxton Berrios to bolster the return game. No clue his market or price, but an all pro returner doesn't hit the market very often. A luxury for sure but I'd be intrigued and at least kick the tires.

I think at this point I'm opening the checkbook for the OL day one of FA and either taking Willis af 6 or trading down for Sam Howell. There really isn't another option I'm comfortable with.

Id take him. Theres a lot to like... plenty that needs improvement and no guarantees hed even amount to anything.. but we also wouldn't be paying him 50mil like Rodgers, or trading 2 firsts and 2 seconds plus players like Wilson. I wouldn't trade a 1st or 2nd. But a condition future 4th is something I could get behind. Especially in combination with being able to go Oline or trade down with 6.

Agreed. Maybe his camp is betting on the cap raising to bump his AAV but I think I'd try the market personally. 2023 is shaping up to be a monster year for FA WRs, maybe that's what they're thinking.

Maybe, but the WR market last year was pretty awful and unpredictable. Plus he's coming off the pretty serious knee injury. I could see why he'd take the guaranteed 1 year but personally if I were him I'd be more concerned with who's gonna be throwing him the ball over a slightly lower annual average of a questionable market.

For what its worth this source is an unverified twitter guy with 15K followers. In fact he just recently "broke" that we had an offer in place for Stafford but "waited too long" and the Rams "swooped in" Which we've known since Schefter put it out there in February 2021. I dont doubt we'd listen to offers for anyone on the team but we sure as hell aren't eating salary for CMC to trade him. And Brian Burns is probably not the only untouchable player on the roster. This is likely a regurgitation of the quote from Fitts that we're listening to offers on CMC if someone calls but we want to keep him.

What do you mean? Of course that happens in the NFL all the time. Hell, just look at PJ Walker!! /s

We simply don't know that they did or didn't. I 100% agree they didn't show everything in camp confidential. You can seriously doubt they didn't make that offer - I can seriously doubt we wouldn't have accepted given our actions in every round that followed. Until something definitive comes out to the contrary both of those statements are purely speculative.

I mean your statement the staff had no intentions of moving the pick is verifiably false. Watch the Camp Confidential video from the draft room. They took calls. Tepper is sitting there stressing they need to listen to everything they say, that they need to let teams know that there are multiple teams calling. They are actually sitting there waiting for offers to come in. These wasn't the Gettlemen draft where the pick is in 14 seconds into the clock. They turned down a 2nd and 3rd from MN, they turned down a swap of 4th round picks. The video from inside our own draft room shows them openly lamenting they couldn't trade down and seemingly talking themselves up that "Hey, end of the day we got who we wanted" I cant tell you why the Bears wouldn't or didn't make the offer to us. I wasn't in the room for that and there has been no confirmed report that it even was offered. What I can tell you is that I doubt that a GM who was open and willing to trade multiple times in almost every round thereafter would seemingly ignore the one trade that could net them the biggest return.