Martin

I disagree on Trask but I give you props for your enthusiasm and pleasant tone!

I can see being intrigued by Strong for sure, I just found the Trask thing really funny.

The funniest thing about all this is that you think saying you were super high on Trask last year somehow makes your support of Strong more valid when it does the opposite.

This 100%

Are you saying that the man who said Lamar Jackson should move to WR is not a fan of a super athletic QB who ran a lot in college. I’m shocked

If we don’t use it will roll over to next year, so not a big deal. Gives us flexibility this year if something comes up. But it won’t disappear if we don’t use it.

Dream: Neal/Ekwonu fall to us and we select one of them at #6. Nightmare: Draft Picket at #6

That’s what makes Willis so intriguing, the intangibles and his physical skill set is there. But will it all come together or not? The upside is there and he will give it his all. Very risky, but also a very high upside it it clicks for him. Still want a LT, but if we go QB, I’d rather gamble on his upside.

Now I feel much better about drafting Willis. If Lombardi says not too, I’m all in

Then I might have to refill the glass with something stronger, but it would for sure be more than half full

If we draft Willis I will be excited and overly optimistic about his potential and high ceiling. If we draft a LT I will be pumped we did the smart thing and now have a potentially really strong o-line and can go all in on drafting a QB next year. Always glass half full!

You do you and go all in. He can make all the throws for sure, he’s just too immobile and (from what I read) a sitting duck in the pocket. But we’ll see. You kind of remind me of the old joke about the man driving the wrong direction on the highway, then hears a reporter on the radio saying “warning, a man is driving the wrong direction”, and he responds “one? there are hundreds of people going the wrong way”.

This is the right question. Do we have any actual intel that he prefer Pickett over Willis?

If I was the owner I would also like a great starting QB, like every other owner in the league. Doesn’t mean he will dictate the draft.

The ideal scenario is that we draft a LT, Sam starts and fails, Rhule gets fired and we draft a QB next year and set ourselves up for long term success.

For the “I’d rather have accuracy” crowd bringing up George and Manziel as examples. Just give me a break. Both are known for being lazy arrogant assholes, and Willis is known to be very smart, hard working and a great leader. Doesn’t mean Willis will improve, but you can feel confident he will work extremely hard at it. Personally I have no interest in a Mac Jones type and his limitations. I’d rather roll the dice with upside. That being said, we really need to draft a LT and wait a year to draft a QB.

I definitely think Willis has question marks. But saying him and PJ are the same is just ridiculous. I put more weight on people like Dane Brugler who currently have him as his 32nd player overall. Hence I found my response appropriate.

I hear you, I’m just not ready to say next year is great yet. Not convinced last years class was great either, but we’ll see.

They do. But the point is that this time last year everyone was taking about Rattler and Howell being clear cut number ones etc. We’ll see what it looks like this time next year. It looks like a potentially strong class next year, but it is far from guaranteed.

I still think 3 DEs, one CB and one OT will go ahead of us. I think Kayvon’s fall is a media creation, and not true for NFL teams. But I’m admittedly trying to stay optimistic.

I prefer a LT, but if I had to pick I’d take Willis. I like Corral but I don’t know if he’ll stay healthy.

First of all, I’m not endorsing this but also, if you hate it just don’t respond and ruin the actual purpose of the thread. I could see where we get Neal with our sixth pick and Corral being available when Philly is doing their three picks. It would really set us up for adding a rookie QB and lean heavy on the run game and be able to ease in a rookie. I also believe Philly is interested in moving one of their first round picks to next year. What would the cost be to acquire their 15/16th pick? Our 1 in 2023 and our 4th this year? 1 and 3 in 2023?

They will potentially draft one In the first round (6th or trade back), if they don’t they will probably get someone like Garapolo at a low cost. I think Fitterer is very comfortable with the plan itself, but he doesn’t know where it will end at this point. But I felt it was clear that his philosophy is that you need to draft your long term QB this draft or the next one.

Exactly, he hadn’t established himself as mediocre, nobody knew what he could do. Picket had three straight seasons of close to identical results. And sure, anyone can improve, one would however expect a more gradual improvement.

The big difference was that Joe wasn’t mediocre for three straight years before his breakout year. That’s the odd thing here.