Martin

The ideal scenario is that we draft a LT, Sam starts and fails, Rhule gets fired and we draft a QB next year and set ourselves up for long term success.

For the “I’d rather have accuracy” crowd bringing up George and Manziel as examples. Just give me a break. Both are known for being lazy arrogant assholes, and Willis is known to be very smart, hard working and a great leader. Doesn’t mean Willis will improve, but you can feel confident he will work extremely hard at it. Personally I have no interest in a Mac Jones type and his limitations. I’d rather roll the dice with upside. That being said, we really need to draft a LT and wait a year to draft a QB.

I definitely think Willis has question marks. But saying him and PJ are the same is just ridiculous. I put more weight on people like Dane Brugler who currently have him as his 32nd player overall. Hence I found my response appropriate.

I hear you, I’m just not ready to say next year is great yet. Not convinced last years class was great either, but we’ll see.

They do. But the point is that this time last year everyone was taking about Rattler and Howell being clear cut number ones etc. We’ll see what it looks like this time next year. It looks like a potentially strong class next year, but it is far from guaranteed.

I still think 3 DEs, one CB and one OT will go ahead of us. I think Kayvon’s fall is a media creation, and not true for NFL teams. But I’m admittedly trying to stay optimistic.

I prefer a LT, but if I had to pick I’d take Willis. I like Corral but I don’t know if he’ll stay healthy.

First of all, I’m not endorsing this but also, if you hate it just don’t respond and ruin the actual purpose of the thread. I could see where we get Neal with our sixth pick and Corral being available when Philly is doing their three picks. It would really set us up for adding a rookie QB and lean heavy on the run game and be able to ease in a rookie. I also believe Philly is interested in moving one of their first round picks to next year. What would the cost be to acquire their 15/16th pick? Our 1 in 2023 and our 4th this year? 1 and 3 in 2023?

They will potentially draft one In the first round (6th or trade back), if they don’t they will probably get someone like Garapolo at a low cost. I think Fitterer is very comfortable with the plan itself, but he doesn’t know where it will end at this point. But I felt it was clear that his philosophy is that you need to draft your long term QB this draft or the next one.

Exactly, he hadn’t established himself as mediocre, nobody knew what he could do. Picket had three straight seasons of close to identical results. And sure, anyone can improve, one would however expect a more gradual improvement.

The big difference was that Joe wasn’t mediocre for three straight years before his breakout year. That’s the odd thing here.

Jeremiah was the latest one I saw, but I’ve seen it a couple of places.

This is a great point. If you like his ranking and you say you want to listen to him, you wouldn’t want any of these QBs in the first round. Using his ranking and then take one in round one when he says not to…

More and more mock drafts have either Ickey or Evan Neal falling out of the top 5. Adding either of them to our line would make for the best line we’ve had in a long time. I also have the feeling based on interviews with Fitts that if there is a blue chip OT available that is the pick. This is getting really exciting!!!

I read somewhere that we need $9m for the draft and want to have $10 for the season. Might have been a tweet from J Alexander

Mac Jones didn’t look great last year, that’s the one I can think of. His deep ball was really rough.

Adding abysmal coaching in college to the fact that he blew people away in his interviews shows tremendous upside. Have no idea if it will work out or not, but all the ingredients are there, no doubt.

I struggle with the fact that he is a four year starter that was mediocre for three years and then great for one year. Other QBs that have had a great year and then get drafted didn’t have three bad years before that, it was more a case of them not getting the chance. He got the chance but showed very little. Yes maybe the light finally came on, but I’m not sure how I feel about it coming on in year four. I also don’t feel there is much upside to him, he is who he is, and not a top 10 pick. But I’m far from a QB expert.

A 1-year deal would allow us to trade back for someone like Tyler Smith from Tulsa who might have the highest LT ceiling this year, but he needs a year or two of coaching. Play Tyler at LG for a year then move him to LT. I prefer one of the top LTs, but if we can trade back for Smith + a QB, it is an enticing idea.

We need a big run stopping LB on first and second down, so it makes a lot of sense. Good stuff assuming he is relatively cheap.

Looks like quite a few good guards and centers left, only two guards signed. Not seeing the need to panic on day one.

The biggest surprise was the comments on Strong. He’s known for making all protection calls himself and changing plays etc. due to his excellent grasp of the playbook in a NFL like offense. This essentially says the complete opposite. So a bit weird to say the least.

This could be great news for us!

Quick Willis question for this crowd. His completion % went from 61% last year to 64% this year. So that sounds good. But a lot of people are concerned about his accuracy. I have not seen him play. Does the 64% not really reflect his accuracy? Stats alone is always a bit of an incomplete story.

The good news is that if Cross is there, I would think they take him, especially with those measurements. Cross at LT and Christensen at LG sounds pretty great to me.