Khyber53

I don't care if a QB has a howitzer arm. Arm strength helps. Accuracy helps. Mobility helps. Toughness and calmness in the pocket help. But the thing that matters the most is processor speed. Can you take the hike, move back into the pocket, go through all your progressions, make the right selection and fire the ball off safely in two seconds? If not, then you aren't going to make it in this league. Seriously, if it takes three seconds to do the job, you're toast. No matter what else you can do. Two seconds and boom, make the pass. Every time there's a play, two seconds is all you are guaranteed, you have to be able to make that. At least 32 guys get to be starting QBs in the NFL each season. Of those, maybe only 10 can do this. That's all. They win the most games. They get the big contracts. They become the franchises. Can this guy do it? Can anyone?

Folks, he interviewed really well for a job he wasn't qualified for, but didn't know he wasn't. He was given big bucks for his potential, his plan that was laid out, the overall spirit in the room at the time and, most importantly, because it was a competitive environment where there was a very, very good chance they could lose what appeared to be a shining candidate to a competitor. It happens. It happens every day in the real world, too. Moving too fast and making too many decisions under the pressure to get first dibs on the best coach available created this problem. There's every chance that right now, Tepper is taking his time with this, to see who Rhule will be bringing on board and if there are changes that will be made. I'd expect within the next two weeks, Rhule will present who those coaches are who have agreed to the jobs and Tepper will then decide if this is moving in the right direction. He could be sold, once again, on Rhule's rhetoric and coaching staff choices. Or he could decide this is a lackluster group (because pickings are going to be slim in this environment) and he could let Rhule go. If he let's Rhule go, then we are late getting into the coaching search. That may not be a bad thing. Bad teams with bad management often rush to hire the hot candidates. They then repeat the process again and again, because they keep making bad choices. Do you think Houston will hire the best guy? Or that Miami will suddenly smarten up? That Elway will make the right choice again in Denver? History says they won't because they always grab the wrong candidates. So, let them make those first choices. Then look at who is left, who really wants to get in here, who really has not just the resume but the respect. Andy Reid was looking for a job when the Chiefs went after him. Heck, Belichick was too when the Patriots needed a new coach and he wasn't a high choice on anyone's list after the Browns debacle. I'm gonna be patient, because that's all we can do. But I think we should know in two weeks where things are headed. I still haven't seen Tepper come out and publicly say Rhule is our guy yet in light of all the uproar in the fanbase.

Not the good ones. They are terribly rare.

I wish you were right, but I don't think Elflein was very good at center and really bad at guard. Injuries are also a knock on him. Since entering the league he's had to have surgeries on a shoulder and an ankle, has lost time (and team) due to a thumb injury and was out for part of this last season with a hamstring injury. I'd look at carrying him as a back-up center (and perhaps backup guard), even though he has a high salary cap hit with us. He might be a good mentor for a rookie center. Paradis is probably gone but his dead money will linger on with us like a ghost of what should have been. I say we draft Tyler Linderbaum in the first round and lock things down. He might be the smallest center in the draft, but he has the resume and tape to make up for it. If he's gone, there's a lot of picks being made before we dive back in after the first round. What intrigues me is that we have Baylor's center, Jacob Gall is sitting out there for a late round draft pick possibility. I know, the Baylor thing, but Gall transferred from Buffalo to Baylor after Rhule left. At Buffalo he was grading out just below Linderbaum's performances (90.5 to 91.5 for Linderbaum). At 6'2" 305 he's a beefier choice. We could pick him up and have a real find there. Still, Linderbaum in the first is what we should do and only deviate from that if Linderbaum is gone. If he's out, grab the best tackle on the board. And @MHS831, I disagree with one other thing. I hate seeing us keep trying to transition tackle prospects to the guard positions. I think it is one of the biggest problems we've traditionally had here. Tackles and guards, when assigned properly, are just wired differently from each other. It's bears and bulls: one stands and mauls, the other muscles and crashes. Tackles need length and lateral movement, guards need muscle, mass and a mean streak.

It's not the quality, it's the cost.

You're both right.

Steel sharpens steel. Poo sticks to poo.

The Colbert part was good, I'd love to see that kind of consultant come in and take a look at things. The Tomlin part doesn't work, though. Tomlin doesn't want to leave Pittsburgh and no one in that organization is going to seriously want him to walk.

At this point, it's hard to argue against your logic. The proof is on the field, winning games while Brady is polishing the resume.

Dear Terry and Kim Pegula, Can we have our dudes back? Signed, The Panthers Faithful. (Someone start playing Dolly Parton's "Jolene" in the background).

Creative financing can keep both.

Because why shave your legs if it's just a quick cup of coffee, right? Chances are any new OC coming here is getting one season and it's hit the bricks time.

He sure was a heck of a pick up.

Dan Sabock is at Temple right now as Special Teams coordinator and Mike Siravo is the ST coach at Baylor right now. Siravo did come on board during the Rhule regime there. No idea if Sabock has any connections. But those are his go to sources. Don't be surprised.

We could all just temporarily become Bills fans until this Rhule debacle is over. I mean, that's where all the best Panthers stuff went or is headed to. It's where those guys built something and are successful. Maybe even Igo could turn this into the Carolina North Huddle or something. Purely on a temporary basis.

You are 100% right here on all of these statements! Culley had that team fighting and competitive by the last half of the year. And yes it is nuts. And there are tons of bad decisions going on in the NFL and it is sad that we may keep Rhule. I'd take Culley over him in a heart beat.

This is exactly what I was looking at for us. Linderbaum is exactly the pick we need. No effing around and getting cute... grab the best center in the draft and install him as a fixture for the next decade. Keep Elflein on hand to help mentor him (if necessary) and to play LG beside him in the early part of the season while developing a new guard from later in the draft or from the undrafted prospects. If no on Elflein, then it might be time to dance with the White Buffalo again and make an honest run at bringing Andrew Norwell back before Buffalo or WFT get him. Then, what to do at QB. Well, we're on the hook for him so keep Darnold on the roster as your back up. In a best of situation, this might be the best career spot for him. He has a moment or two here and there, so just keep him at that spot for emergencies. Pick up a free agent journeyman to start or a second stringer who needs a shot. Maybe you get a Jake Delhomme if you strike gold, but all you are shooting for is just someone who can compete. Franchise QB is the target for next year. And fug the whole Deshaun Watson crap. Just quit it. While I'd be happy seeing us take a swing at Garopolo, chances are his price tag is going to be too high. Watson would be a train wreck with long-term implications.

Meh.

Been saying it for a few days now. Tepper has not, as of this moment, come out and said after the season that everything is hunky dory. He's probably waiting to see what kind of staff Rhule can dig up and recruit in this environment and with the possibility that they will all be on short term contracts (while other new head coaches are recruiting as well for those spots). Tepper could be sending Rhule on a fool's errand just to see if he can pull off some kind of miracle. And we have to remember, Tepper sat through each of those games this year and last just like we did. He saw what we did. So yeah, there's a chance that Rhule is just dangling by a thread right now.

Gilmore better than Olsen? Really? Dang, man. Really?

<cough>Greg Olsen 2011<cough> There were others, but that one outweighs any of the "splash" moves we've made this past season alone. Wayyyyy outweighs. Not saying Marty was a genius at all, but let's not get all big and bold about the 2021 season's acquisitions. Gilmore looks like a good DB, but that was two interceptions on a team that just was getting killed every weekend since he joined.

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He may be waiting to see who Rhule comes back with as OC, OL coach, DL coach and STC. Those candidates will show an awful lot about the direction Rhule will and is willing to take. It also will show how much draw power Rhule's system has for coaching personnel. How many actual coaches will line up for a job here when they could be tied to a coach with a two season losing record and only a potential third season of employment (if things don't improve rapidly). Can Rhule actually dig his way out of the hole he is in? That may well be what David Tepper is assessing. In the meantime, a bunch of really bad teams, with tendencies to pick really bad coaches, will be flooding into the marketplace. Most of them will choose poorly. One or two might hit on something good. Knowing that rushing to judgement last time probably got him less than he wanted might make dragging his feet a bit more palatable. Until Tepper comes out and says out loud, "Matt's our man for 2022" nothing is written in stone. And I think that bewildered, sleep-deprived look Rhule had at the press conference might just reflect that situation. As to Fitt, I think he must have been assured he'd be here for this year.