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Scott is a guy worth keeping for depth. Daley will likely just never be able to stay healthy and Little is just terrible. I don't think Little will last long after he is gone from here. Maybe a PS spot or two.

1. Cam 6a. Steve B 6b. Jake The gulf between Cam the other two is very wide. Cam was an elite NFL player and league MVP. Jake and Steve were great stories and fine QB's bit none of them ever dominates the way Cam was able to. Teams had to game plan around him.

Oh this isn't his first awful take. Not sure how many lumps he is willing to take before skulking away. I don't follow the Appaloosa Model religiously, so I can't tell

It was. He also had another 3700+ season for us. But, he played in the NFL for 14 years and only had 4 years over 2500 yards passing. 3 of them were with us. Still think he was the second best QB in franchise history(no disrespect to Jake) but he never reproduced those results anywhere before or after us. I don't know that I see that in Trubisky but he was given a lot more opportunities than Steve was early in his career. Perhaps if he does have that sort of peak it could be in the next few years.

I mean.....most of us pretty much saw the writing on the wall when he told Culley he wasn't going to play for them. Only the Houston front office and @SizzleBuzz seem to believe anything otherwise. Actually, the front office probably knew it too. They just can't come out and say that. So only @SizzleBuzz

It is possible. Steve was technically a journeyman backup that had his peak in Carolina. That isn't a bad comparison, as I view Trubisky as a career backup.

If we can magically get out of Teddy's contract via a trade, I am probably not as caught up on the money. I don't know that he would ultimately be better than Teddy but we would get to see something different at least. Trubisky is largely bad but when he is clicking he can put on a show. I guess that would at least give you 2-3 good games a year to watch versus the 16 straight check-down-a-thons. Trubisky is also a lot more likely to net us a top 5 pick, so there is that. I guess we could try this tanking again.

I am caught up on the money plus I don't really view him the same way you do. I view him as a better backup option than Walker and Grier but not too much more than that. I don't view him as capable of starting for an NFL team for more than a couple of games a season. The Bears just didn't have a lot of great options. I am primarily caught up on tying up that kind of money on a subpar player. With that $8-9 mil, we could get some serious help on the OL or in the secondary. I just can't envision being able to justify spending that on a player of his caliber.

That would be a top 5 backup QB contract last season. I don't see any reason to pay that for him. If we had cash like the Jags or Colts or Pats....sure. But we don't.

I think the story for Trubisky has largely been written, but perhaps he is an outlier. I agree about Lance but I still don't want to be paying another backup caliber QB a big contract. The scenarios probably don't work out to even sign him, in all honesty. I can't see us spending big on a QB if we cut Teddy or if we keep Teddy. I am skeptical of being able to trade Teddy. Maybe we will have more of an idea about the direction we will go when free agency starts.

I don't really view a scenario of him starting here as a win for us, unless it is injury related. IMO, there is no reason to get desperate at QB unless we trade or cut Teddy and then whiff in the draft. I'd rather take a flier on a QB prospect in the 2nd round rather than pay a big salary for Trubisky. We basically know what he is. He's a low end gunslinger that cannot be consistent. He's a poor man's Fitzpatrick, basically.

You can point to Hill too but I don't think you will see the situation of overpaying backup QB's be the norm. Brissett also got that contract to technically be the starter. Same as when Foles got his big deal or Glennon. They just proved to be something other than that and none of these big contracts for those kind of guys have looked good in hindsight. Like I said, I see nothing about Trubisky that makes me want to make him a highly paid backup QB.

I understand but I don't think it is wise to have that kind of money tied up in a backup QB at the moment. I'd rather sign a cheaper veteran QB if we need a #2. Ideally, it would make sense to try and roll as much money as we can over to 2022. I like Trubisky as a cheap backup, not a top 4 paid backup.

I think that is just basically making the Teddy mistake all over again. Tubisky should be looking at a Cam/Winston contract and not a Mariotta contract. We can't keep throwing away money mindlessly as a franchise. If anyone wants to pay him $8+ mil, they are welcome to him.

Jacksonville would be crazy to give up Minshew for that kind of a pick. Frankly, I would probably want a first round pick for him. He is INSANELY cheap and probably the best backup QB in the NFL.

Agreed but we also thought he might be a bottom end to middle tier NFL starter when he proved to just be a journeyman backup QB. I think that has changed the situation quite a bit. I definitely don't care about his feelings. We will see how it all goes down. Hindsight definitely hasn't been kind to the Hurney/Rhule combo from the 2020 offseason. That's another scary thought, what if Rhule was sold on guys like Whitehead, Teddy, Weatherly, etc. I hope we can end up blaming that on Hurney.

I don't 100% disagree with this but you are also kicking the can towards years in which we will be needing to have room for our younger/core guys to get extended. If the cap makes a huge leap due to the new TV deals, perhaps I can understand the move. I, like so many here, just don't have a lot of faith historically in such moves because they were so often not to our benefit. Perhaps the real issue is just "Battered Fan Syndrome."

I think you play the board but it would be hard to pass on Lance at 8 if he is available. That is gonna depend on what our scouting department comes up with. It could be we wouldn't touch Lance or Jones or Mond in the first round at all. I am not gonna be upset about getting a top end CB or OT at 8.

The rumor mill about him being on the outs here. I agree taking that dead cap hit wouldn't be wise but probably rolling into 2021 with a lame duck QB isn't either. If we can't trade him then most of the scenarios we are looking at are probably touchy or just bad. It's going to be interesting to see what transpires.

I would say Teddy actually has a better arm than Jones. I don't think Jones is plagued by Teddy's gross risk aversion.

I don't know if some of the rumblings are true. I guess I am just not sure how you trot him back out there after this offseason. If we sign someone else or draft someone else, we would have the most expensive backup QB in the NFL and by a significant margin(possibly the most expensive backup in NFL history). It seems like trotting out Teddy again would generally be problematic. Does he have trade value? To be determined.

What do we do with Teddy if we go JAG free agent signing, though? Cut him?

I always just post the career leaders from the NCAA in yardage, TD's, completion percentage, etc. If people haven't figured this out by now, there just isn't much to even say to them. College is an incredibly skewed and very tilted playing field that can create some extremely skewed results. Video game stats are meaningless without NFL traits. That is obvious with every single position.

Definitely disagree. Mechanical issues are very common in prospects, as are guys that come from gimmicky or one read college offenses. That is actually something the NFL has actually had to adjust to to make that transition easier. Guys that don't fix mechanical things in the NFL just lack work ethic. That said, there are guys like Mahomes that can make these nutty throws without being perfect. Kyle Wilson is an example of that.

Would have been nice to get a fifth and sixth. Either way, 100% agree. The depth on our roster overall is probably the worst in the NFL. Those kind of picks are necessary to resolve that.