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I don't know if some of the rumblings are true. I guess I am just not sure how you trot him back out there after this offseason. If we sign someone else or draft someone else, we would have the most expensive backup QB in the NFL and by a significant margin(possibly the most expensive backup in NFL history). It seems like trotting out Teddy again would generally be problematic. Does he have trade value? To be determined.

What do we do with Teddy if we go JAG free agent signing, though? Cut him?

I always just post the career leaders from the NCAA in yardage, TD's, completion percentage, etc. If people haven't figured this out by now, there just isn't much to even say to them. College is an incredibly skewed and very tilted playing field that can create some extremely skewed results. Video game stats are meaningless without NFL traits. That is obvious with every single position.

Definitely disagree. Mechanical issues are very common in prospects, as are guys that come from gimmicky or one read college offenses. That is actually something the NFL has actually had to adjust to to make that transition easier. Guys that don't fix mechanical things in the NFL just lack work ethic. That said, there are guys like Mahomes that can make these nutty throws without being perfect. Kyle Wilson is an example of that.

Would have been nice to get a fifth and sixth. Either way, 100% agree. The depth on our roster overall is probably the worst in the NFL. Those kind of picks are necessary to resolve that.

The Brady comparison is always a terrible comparison. Name another Brady like result with relatively average/above average skill set? Outliers don't define smart moves. The league has made a move towards guys that are more mobile and have elite skills because it makes your offense so much harder to defend. Jones had very little in the way of elite skill sets. If he DOES have elite processing, that helps a lot. However, he needs things to go right around him to help him be successful(and yes this could be said of many QB's). Not having an elite arm or being an elite athlete is always going to make you have to work harder to be successful. Where Lawrence, Fields, Lance or Wilson might be able to throw lasers into windows, Jones isn't going to be able to do that. Where the play breaks down and you need an off platform throw, Wilson can make that. Lance and Fields can punish you scrambling. The is the problem with the low ceiling guys, they have to really work hard to achieve an edge. Jones has to be willing to do that. Guys like Brady or Brees don't come around often. Hell, if Bledsoe doesn't get injured, there may be no Tom Brady story. If San Diego doesn't draft Rivers, there may be no Drew Brees story.

I am way off on what we should pay him? Absolutely not. He may get that, I just hope we aren't the dumb franchise that does it. He has one more NFL stop where people see "potential." After that he will just be what he has been, not an NFL caliber starting QB. Basically the same thing Teddy was for us in a different form. People like to quote the Tannehill scenario but that is a big outlier. There are way more guys that got a big contract to be the guy and ended up being backup/journeyman QB's(Foles, Flacco, Bradford, Glennon, Teddy, Cassell, etc). There are even more guys that were ruined after they were initially a bust with the team that drafted them in the top 10. Those are two big examples of why you don't want to gamble big on a reclamation project. They very, very, very rarely pan out. Especially with a guy like Trubisky who, although clearly talented, has never shown any ability to be consistent nor really improve. I'd love to have him as an upgrade over Walker or Grier as our backup but I am not going to pay Taysom Hill money for a backup.

In fairness, we could end up being wrong on our takes of this....but this just seems so disturbingly familiar.

Pretty sure Moton has been playing at Moton his entire life.

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Scott, Little and Daley at LT made me puke in my mouth a little. Okay, a lot.

I would not want to pay him $8.3 mil. At that rate, let him go elsewhere. I was thinking more in the $4-5 mil range.

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Wow.....just....wow.

I think it is entirely possible Trubisky would be the 6th or 7th best QB in this draft class. You have to remember that not only was he vastly over drafted by Chicago but at the time that was considered a very, very, very weak QB draft class. Now, in hindsight, it had two of the biggest stars in the NFL at QB but I don't remember many getting excited about Mahomes as a prospect and Watson wasn't considered a very high caliber QB prospect either.

Minshew is just flat out a better player.

His drafting was not consistent and sometimes very bad. Reference the rest of his drafts aside from 2017. He only looks good because of the large swath of time that Hurney was crushing the first round and basically little else. Gettleman's dumpster diving early on netted some great results. I always felt like he got a little overconfident with that. Then he made aeguably the worst free agency signing in franchise history in Matt Kalil. To me, after the suspect drafts, that was the final straw in his coffin.

Jones isn't Teddy. Teddy is actually more NFL skilled than Jones is(stronger arm, far better athlete). Teddy just can't get out of his own way. Dalton is a better comparison and I just can't see the justification for taking Andy Dalton at 8. I'd rather gamble bigger on an upper half of the NFL QB. That is no slight to Dalton's NFL career, but we are looking for a franchise QB and Dalton really wasn't. Ironically, the Bengals ended up drafting a guy that is pretty similar to Andy Dalton.

I don't think anyone knows yet. Undoubtedly Curtis will test the market but we don't know how hot of a commodity he will be.

There is an awful lot of stupid in this thread so it is nice to see some reason. Trubisky is basically in the "only a little better than Teddy" category. That said, he needs to come cheaply. Anything that isn't cheap or is more than 2 years is just repeating the mistakes of last offseason. Sign him to a reasonable backup QB contract, as that is what he actually is.

Oh well. We have a nice run against the bottom half of the division the rest of the month, so we will have ample opportunities to push Tampa. We just need to keep taking care of business and we can take this division.

The workouts are basically to get numbers on guys and see if they are capable of not shitting the bed under the lights. But the pro day's have the least value of any event. It's all scripted and in a comfortable setting for these players.

We are significantly jumping the shark on this take. CMC is an elite player on pace for a HOF caliber career.....however he also spent the last year banged up and is playing one of the shortest average career length positions. There is no question he is capable of being an all time Panther great. Samuel had a great year but let's not forget he has also been a one year wonder. If he ascends to being a #1 or #2 WR somewhere else or becomes a consistent producer for another 5-8 years, he is a HR pick. But we are also forgetting his rather forgettable career prior to his contract year. Taylor Moton is a stud. Not much argument from me, as he is probably one of the top 5-6 OL we have ever drafted. But, still need to see him continue to play that way for another few years. Hall was a bust. Elder has had one year of decent nickel production, so let's not get too carried away yet. Alex Armah is a very good pick for what he is. Butker appears to be a great pick. If he continues to play well, he may be our best 7th round selection in franchise history. If that happens, plenty of credit will be issued for hitting that big of a HR that late in the draft.